- From: Ted Thibodeau Jr <tthibodeau@openlinksw.com>
- Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:00:42 -0400
- To: Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>
- Cc: public-linked-json@w3.org
On Jul 18, 2011, at 09:00 PM, Manu Sporny wrote: > I think we're skirting very close to letting theoretical purity > get in the way of getting real work done. If we don't allow > unlabeled nodes (or whatever you want to call them), then this > is illegal in JSON-LD: > > { > "name": "Kingsley Idehen" > } > > If that is an illegal statement in JSON-LD, then JSON-LD is > certainly not a sub-set of JSON, but a newer, more limited form > of JSON - and that is when just about every JSON developer will > look away from JSON-LD and keep looking for something that will > work for them in the real-world. Manu -- It seems that your definition of "sub-set" may differ from mine. To my mind -- - JSON is less restrictive than JSON-LD. - JSON is more permissive than JSON-LD. - All JSON-LD is JSON. - Some JSON is not JSON-LD; is JSON-NLD ("Non-Linked Data"). If this were a Venn Diagram, you'd see two circles, one (JSON-LD) entirely contained within the other (JSON). Further -- - JSON allows for IRI-less nodes. - JSON-LD *SHOULD NOT* allow for IRI-less nodes. An IRI-less node cannot be usefully referred to over time, nor across graphs (or JSON or other documents). Such a node's description cannot be re-retrieved later. An IRI-bearing node can be usefully referred to over time and across graphs, and its description can be retrieved time and time again, potentially growing and/or being refined at each retrieval (dereference). Such reference (and dereferenceability) is the most important aspect of Linked Data (LD) that sets it apart from Non-Linked Data (NLD)-- i.e., the LINK. Given all that, I think this follows -- - A JSON-LD document MUST NOT include JSON-NLD. - A JSON document MAY include JSON-NLD and JSON-LD -- i.e., it MAY intermingle Linked Data and Non-Linked Data. - Intermingled JSON-LD and JSON-NLD is preferred over pure JSON-NLD. Pure JSON-LD is preferred over such intermingling. Be seeing you, Ted -- A: Yes. http://www.guckes.net/faq/attribution.html | Q: Are you sure? | | A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. | | | Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? Ted Thibodeau, Jr. // voice +1-781-273-0900 x32 Evangelism & Support // mailto:tthibodeau@openlinksw.com // http://twitter.com/TallTed OpenLink Software, Inc. // http://www.openlinksw.com/ 10 Burlington Mall Road, Suite 265, Burlington MA 01803 http://www.openlinksw.com/weblogs/uda/ OpenLink Blogs http://www.openlinksw.com/weblogs/virtuoso/ http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen/ Universal Data Access and Virtual Database Technology Providers
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