- From: Markus Lanthaler <markus.lanthaler@gmx.net>
- Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 15:23:32 +0800
- To: "'Linked JSON'" <public-linked-json@w3.org>
- Cc: "'Gregg Kellogg'" <gregg@kellogg-assoc.com>
Gregg Kellogg wrote: > Well, you could have a dependency chain of term definitions, so it > could be confusing as to how to do this, but that's a real corner-case. As long as there are no cycles, everything is fine. But as you've said that's a real corner case which we should document but not be worried too much about. > We'd need to say, first look for term definitions. Then, resolve any > IRIs that don't depend on these term definitions using the active > context. Subsequently, resolve term definitions that do have these > dependencies (ignoring, for the moment, the pathological cascading > dependency issue). Then resolve @datatype IRIs. An alternative would be to describe the algorithm in a recursive way; it just follows the "links" (i.e., prefixes). That would also explain the issues with cycles. But I agree, describing it the way you suggested is probably much easier to understand. > This was why I suggested not covering this case, but it's really an > issue for processor implementers to worry about, not authors. Not too > clean, though. Why do you think it's not clean? You have the same issues on almost all technologies that allow references.. > > I would prefer the second form as it really eases the life of users > while > > the algorithms aren't getting much more complex. I quickly hacked a > demo in > > PHP [1] that can process prefix:suffixes in @iri and in @datatype. > > This would be the most consistent, if the added complexity to the > algorithm is acceptable. Based on my little experiments with the feature I think the added complexity shouldn't be an issue at all. > >> As an alternative, we could define a set of terms that are defined > in a > >> global "default" context, similar to RDFa's default context. There > we > >> could define mappings for xsd, rdf, dc, foaf, schema and others. > This > >> would eliminate most need for doing two-pass processing of contexts. > > > > I have a really strong opinion of not doing this. It just makes > things more > > complicated than they need to be. We can have a reference context > defined > > somewhere at w3.org or json-ld.org that can be imported with those > defaults > > but not hardcoded in the implementation. > > Yes, of course, as RDFa does it. That was what I meant. No, I think you misunderstood me. In RDFa you don't have to include anything. foaf, e.g., is included out of the box. I wouldn't like to see something similar in JSON-LD. What I proposed was to create a "default" context and host it somewhere so that authors can either download it and host it themselves or just reference it in their JSON-LD documents. -- Markus Lanthaler @markuslanthaler
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