- From: Sandro Hawke <sandro@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2014 09:52:26 -0400
- To: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>, public-ldp@w3.org
On 04/01/2014 08:56 AM, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
> On 4/1/14 8:19 AM, Sandro Hawke wrote:
>> Also, I think the risks are quite bounded, because this design is
>> attached to the current three LDP containers. That is, this
>> decision only applies if you're dealing with one of three particular
>> classes of resource (ldp:BasicContainer, ldp:DirectContainer, and
>> ldp:IndirectContainer). Personally, frankly, I expect 5 years from
>> now all three of those containers will be considered obsolete.
>> We're really just starting to figure out LDP, and my sense is several
>> details of how those containers are defined will be problematic, once
>> we have some more experience. But for now, they're good enough to
>> move forward a bit, and as we learn more we can define new and better
>> ones.
>
> I struggle to understand why one would design with inevitable
> obsolescence in mind. Seriously now, if this was the basis of AWWW
> where would the Web be today?
>
Random example: In the HTML spec, "No elements may be recursively
nested." [1]
Fortunately, it wasn't too hard to fix that later.
Surely you're not suggesting we wait until everyone is perfectly happy
with every aspect of the design before we suggest people try using it.
When do you want LDP to ship? By the charter we have two months left.
As far as I can tell, the working group has done the best job it could
within the time it had. It's not clear to me it could do better with
more time -- I think what's actually needed is for people to try using
it, and then we'll re-convene and improve what needs to improved.
That's a good thing.
-- Sandro
> One thing I do agree with though is simply this: any spec that boils
> down to poorly derived compromises of AWWW is doomed for obsolescence,
> and that will occur in less than 5 years.
>
> If a spec isn't implemented by anyone, or a tiny minority, in the
> context of the Web it is basically as good as obsolete, IMHO.
>
>
[1] http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/draft-ietf-iiir-html-01.txt
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