Re: "Basic profile" terminology ?

> possible adversarial scenarios that come to mind are .... does this
> illustrate things sufficiently? i guess i could produce a longer list of

Yes, thank you.  Any longer list can/should wait for later, this is 
sufficiently illustrative for me to think I understand your intent.

> it's not a higher level of abstraction, it's a higher level of
> generalization. direct data access (even in the real world, think or
> libraries and archives and agencies) requires a lot of trust in those
> granted that access; for everybody else, there needs to be a mediation

OK, I better understand how to interpret your earlier remarks now.

> i think i have laid out what i could see this working group doing. not
> standards, but looking at how to make services work for linked data. if

We all think we're clear (heck, I thought I was clear when I wrote the 
'exposing...disconnect' bit below).  We also often find that other brains 
(and those pesky differing assumptions/experiences they insist on dragging 
into it ;-) ) do not always understand things as we intend.  People's 
requests for clarifications are simply evidence that they at least are 
aware of reasonable alternative interpretations of our words.

> actually, the most common de facto usage of the term REST in the REST
> community is to use HTTP as an application protocol, which is what i am
> arguing for.

Yours is a more accurate rendering of my intent than mine.  I.e. violent 
agreement.

> >  That interpretation would seem consistent with the one above positing
> >that the "service" discussion may be exposing a model/metamodel
> > or "level of abstraction" disconnect.
> 
> my apologies, but this one i don't understand.

No worries, my lack of precision - simply a reference back to the 
preceding discussion where I was hypothesizing that the confusion/lack of 
consensus stemmed from people using very similar words to "poke at" issues 
at different levels of abstraction, i.e. the following JA>/EW> bits.

JA>If it's not specific to REST, am I to infer that it's at a higher level
JA>of abstraction?  If so, I'm forced to ask which/whose definition of 
REST
EW> it's not a higher level of abstraction, it's a higher level of
EW> generalization. direct data access (even in the real world, think or




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