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Re: [ld4lt] namespace for the model of language resources

From: John P. McCrae <jmccrae@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de>
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 13:13:39 +0100
Message-ID: <CAC5njqrVMwFaX15YsDx5XAxED4iX5v7Nu==+-MjLo8FQ8NggzA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Penny Labropoulou <penny@ilsp.gr>
Cc: Marta Villegas <marta.villegas@gmail.com>, Víctor Rodríguez Doncel <vrodriguez@fi.upm.es>, public-ld4lt@w3.org
Hi,

I meant that I am not sure who owns the following
http://www.meta-net.eu/meta-share. Also I am not sure about it's stability
as it is a project URL again

Regards,
John

On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 1:11 PM, Penny Labropoulou <penny@ilsp.gr> wrote:

> Hi all!
>
> John, a question: what do you mean with "Metashare: We are unlikely to
> have access here."?
>
>
>
> For the namespace, I think it would be nice to have some prefix that says
> that these metadata come from the MetaShare model (as it is by now a
> recognizable model in the community). I honestly don't know whether this
> can still be done by hosting it at purl.org and/or whether we can use
> Marta's ttl and make the extensions/changes we discuss at ld4lt on that.
>
> If I remember well, purl.org also allows for resolvable URIs (if that's
> the correct term) for pointing at properties/classes etc. So, that's a good
> solution.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> Penny
>
>
>
> *From:* johnmccrae@gmail.com [mailto:johnmccrae@gmail.com] *On Behalf Of *John
> P. McCrae
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 22, 2015 1:57 PM
> *To:* Marta Villegas
> *Cc:* Víctor Rodríguez Doncel; public-ld4lt@w3.org
> *Subject:* Re: [ld4lt] namespace for the model of language resources
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I agree with Marta, purl.org is best, although I would rather redirect to
> a service that does RDF properly (content negotiation etc., nice HTML
> version)
>
> Metashare: We are unlikely to have access here.
>
> LingHub: This is really lider-project.eu... I have had bad experience with
> the longevity of project URLs
>
> LD4LT: I don't know what this means... but ld4lt.org is for sale and
> buying it is an option
>
> W3C: Also a possibility, but then we may have to handle W3C procedures if
> we wish to update the model, i.e., this is probably better if we know the
> model is more or less 'static'
>
> Regards,
> John
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Marta Villegas <marta.villegas@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> from our experience:
>
>
>
> purl.org is nice as it gives you a persintent URI which you redirect
> whenever you want BUT we redirected to github (to allow for community
> edition, versioning etc). Github uses https and Protege has problems with
> https
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> 2015-01-22 10:02 GMT+01:00 Víctor Rodríguez Doncel <vrodriguez@fi.upm.es>:
>
> El 21/01/2015 13:19, Jorge Gracia escribió:
>
> Dear all,
>
>
>
> During the last telco (about Metashare and the licenses module) the
> following issue was identified: "which namespace do we have to choose for
> the new OWL model for representing metadata of language resources?"
>
>
>
> The preliminary version of the model by UPF is at
> http://purl.org/ms-lod/MetaShare.ttl  An alternative namespace has to be
> found to avoid collision with the systems they already have in place. There
> are several alternatives:
>
> -  Metashare-based namespace (at least for the Metashare metadata)
>
> -  Linghub-based namespace
>
> -  purl-based namespace (or any other generic provider of permanent URLs)
>
> --> I think this is for the moment the most flexible, but not the best...
>
> -  LD4LT-based namespace
>
> --> Who is responsible for this namespace?
>
> -  W3C-based namespace
>
> - Other?
>
>
>
> All of them have theirs pros/cons of course. Please feel free to send your
> opinion around or to add further alternatives.
>
>
>
> May I ask the group chairs to add this issue into the agenda of tomorrow's
> telco? (it shouldn't take more than 10 min I think)
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> --
>
> Jorge Gracia, PhD
> Ontology Engineering Group
> Artificial Intelligence Department
> Universidad Politécnica de Madrid
> http://jogracia.url.ph/web/
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Víctor Rodríguez-Doncel
>
> D3205 - Ontology Engineering Group (OEG)
>
> Departamento de Inteligencia Artificial
>
> Facultad de Informática
>
> Universidad Politécnica de Madrid
>
>
>
> Campus de Montegancedo s/n
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>
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>
>
> --
>
> Marta Villegas
> marta.villegas@gmail.com
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