- From: Pierre-Antoine Champin <pierre-antoine@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2026 12:32:07 +0100
- To: Alastair Parker <alastair@jargon.sh>
- Cc: public-json-ld@w3.org
- Message-ID: <0f56ffc6-db4a-4e49-b873-88db92a0aa92@w3.org>
On 16/01/2026 05:23, Alastair Parker wrote: > Hey Pierre-Antoine > > Jargon doesn’t currently generate JSON-LD frames, but it has been > designed to bridge gaps between the semantic and everyday developer > worlds, so generating framing is something we could support if needed. > > Jargon takes a developer-first approach by modelling and fixing the > intended data structure up front using domain models. This imposes > some concrete structure on semantic vocabularies and helps ensure they > can be easily taken up and used by development teams — a very similar > conceptual outcome to framing. > > If framing is specifically useful to you, I’m happy to compare notes > or explore how it might look in practice, especially if it helps bring > vocabulary authors, semantics, and everyday development teams closer > together, which is what we’ve built Jargon to do. My reasoning is as follows: provdining a JSON-LD context allows people to consume the data as an RDF graph; once the data is converted into triple and processed in "RDF land", these people may want send the resulting data back as JSON(-LD) complying with the corresponding JSON-Schema. This is where a frame would be useful. best > > Thanks again for taking a look at Jargon. > > Al > > > On Thu, 15 Jan 2026, 5:57 pm Pierre-Antoine Champin, > <pierre-antoine@w3.org> wrote: > > Hi Alastair, > > thanks for this, I will definitely try out Jargon. > > Question: in addition to JSON Schemas and JSON-LD contexts, do you > also generate JSON-LD frame? > > pa > > On 07/10/2025 04:10, Alastair Parker wrote: >> Hello all, >> >> Benjamin suggested I introduce myself. I’m Al, founder of Jargon, >> a modelling tool that we use to generate JSON Schema, JSON-LD >> contexts, and related artefacts from composable domain models. >> >> Here are two examples of how we’re using JSON-LD in practice: >> >> United Nations Transparency Protocol (UNTP): >> While I can’t speak on behalf of the UNTP team, I can share that >> the team use Jargon to model trade and supply-chain domains - a >> mix of UN-specific properties and references to established >> vocabularies like schema.org <http://schema.org>. From these >> models, the team generate both JSON Schema and JSON-LD contexts, >> and Jargon ensures they work together: the schema enforces >> mechanical @type properties that the context file then relies on >> for expansion. Jargon follows Domain-Driven Design, and those >> principles flow through to the @context file - with entities >> (things with business identity) represented as top-level named >> items that resolve to @types, and value objects (things without >> business identity) declared in nested @context entries beneath >> their owning entities. The goal is to let ordinary web developers >> keep working with JSON and their existing tooling, while still >> participating in a semantic ecosystem - but keeping their JSON >> feeling familiar to how it’s normally structured. In practice, >> this means things like correct @type values “just happen” when >> they generate code from the schemas - developers don’t even need >> to be aware they’re working with JSON-LD unless they choose to. >> >> Enterprise data provenance: >> We have enterprise customers who aren’t interested in JSON-LD or >> semantics at all, but care deeply about identifying data >> provenance in their JSON. Jargon uses Domain-Driven Design to >> model data that draws from multiple domains into developer >> artefacts like JSON Schema that tend to be monolithic, without >> borders resembling the input domains. As a result, similarly >> named concepts aren’t easily distinguishable in the JSON alone - >> for example, “customer” in billing vs. “customer” in support lose >> their provenance once serialised. By expanding into JSON-LD, each >> usage is grounded with a unique identifier, allowing teams to >> extract the provenance back out again. Teams rarely care what the >> IRIs resolve to - if anything - and tend only to care that they >> are unique enough to namespace them. Some teams then consume the >> expanded JSON-LD directly, while others simply check provenance >> in the expanded graph before discarding it and processing the >> unexpanded JSON. >> >> For us - and most of our clients, who come from more JSON, API, >> and object-oriented exchange backgrounds - JSON-LD has proven to >> be the simplest and most effective way to carry “just enough” >> semantics alongside JSON for consumers who want it, even if >> that’s where semantics ends, and never touches RDF, triples, or >> graphs. This also joins up well with how these customers are >> designing and governing the individual domains in Jargon - giving >> them strong alignment between design and implementation that >> smooths over many bumps in shared understanding. We’ve also found >> that these approaches haven’t ruffled too many feathers among >> JSON purists, with the artefacts working seamlessly in typical >> JSON pipelines. >> >> Al >
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