draft agenda for ixml community group meeting Tuesday 18 January 2022

ixml meeting 18 January 2022

When:  Tuesday 18 January 2022 15:30 UTC for 1 hour
https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=ixml+online+meeting+January&iso=20220118T1530

Where: Location: https://meet.google.com/dfz-rwpj-opq 
  
Minute taker: ? (the smart money is on Steven)

IRC: the meetings will be minuted on IRC at irc://irc.w3.org:6667/%23ixml
Details of W3C IRC use are at [1] and [2].
[1] https://www.w3.org/wiki/InternetRelayChat
[2] https://www.w3.org/wiki/IRC

Previous minutes:
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2022Jan/0070.html
https://www.w3.org/2022/01/11-ixml-minutes


AGENDA

Topic:  Review of agenda

    1 Review  of outstanding actions
    
    2 Pragmas proposal (continued)
    
    3 Review of open issues
    
        # 27 dstring, sstring
	# 5 comments in awkward places
	# 22 make 'empty' more explicit
	# 24 accept the whole input?
	- cluster of issues on conformance (20, 25, 8, 23, 21)
	# 26 ambiguity
	# 6 media type
	# 28 schema for grammars
	
    4 Status reports
    
        implementations  
	testing, test suites  
 
    5 Other topics
    
        website
	release plan
	
    6 Next meeting
    
    7 Any other business


Topic:  Previous Actions 

ACTION (2021-10-001): Steven Pemberton to draft a mediatypes proposal
(see https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/6).

ACTION (2022-01-001): Dave Pawson to propose terminology to separate
document inputs and outputs.



Topic:  Pragmas proposal

    Brief summary:
    https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2022Jan/0029.html

    Proposal: misc/pragmas-proposal.md in proposal-pragmas branch
    https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/blob/proposal-pragmas/misc/pragmas-proposal.md

    Background:  misc/pragmas.md in proposal-pragmas branch
    https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/blob/proposal-pragmas/misc/pragmas.md    
    This is a longer discussion of the proposal in pragmas.md, with
    alternatives; discussion of requirements, desiderata, and design
    principles; and worked examples showing how processors might use
    the pragmas proposal for support of various kinds of additional
    functionality.

    Strawman proposal from SP:
    https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2022Jan/0102.html

    See also (older discussions):

    https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2021Jun/0003 (pragmas)
    https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2021Jul/0002 (namespace decls, locality)


Bugs: For a list of all active issues, see
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/]

Topic: issue #27 Should ixml elide the difference between dstring and sstring?
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/27

Topic:  issue #5 Whitespace / comments in awkward places 
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/5 

Topic: issue #22 Clarify the spec by making "empty" more explicit
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/22 

Topic: issue #24 Does ixml have to match the whole input?
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/24

Topic:  issue cluster on grammar conformance and processor obligations
wrt grammars

    - issue #20 Conformance: what grammars to accept and reject?
        https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/20 
    - issue #25 Distinguish static and dynamic grammar errors?  
        https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/25
    - issue #18 Conformance issue: rule names and XML names
        https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/18 
    - issue #23 Disallowed characters in XML 
        https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/23 
    - issue #21 Conformance issue: failures for extraneous reasons
        https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/21

Topic: issue #26 How is ambiguity defined? What obligations do
processors have in cases of ambiguity?
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/26 

Topic: issue #6 Media type?
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/6 

Topic: Desiderata for a schema for XML grammars 
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2021Dec/0009.html
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/28


Topic: Status of implementations

    Any reports?

  
Topic: Status of testing and test suites

    Any reports?

  

Topic: Website
  
     https://invisiblexml.org
     https://github.com/invisibleXML/


Topic:  Release plan 

    https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2021Nov/0064.html

    (https://www.xmlprague.cz/ says XML Prague is currently scheduled
    for 9-11 June 2022.)


Topic: Next meeting 

Normal date for ixml meetings is every Tuesday at 15:30 UTC

On the usual schedule, the next meeting would be Tuesday 25 January,
at 15:30 UTC for one hour.

https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=ixml+online+meeting&iso=20220125T1530


Topic: Any other business 


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Received on Monday, 17 January 2022 18:34:43 UTC