Re: draft agenda for ixml community group meeting Tuesday 11 January 2022

Reviewing recent discussions on the mailing list, I see some topics that
do not appear in the agenda I sent out earlier; I have added them in
what seem to be appropriate locations.  The reason I missed them is that
we had not opened github issues for them.

So I'll take this opportunity to suggest that we discuss how we wish to
track issues.  

Revised draft agenda follows.


ixml meeting 11 January 2022

When:  Tuesday 11 January 2022 15:30 UTC for 1 hour
https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=ixml+online+meeting+January&iso=20211214T1530

Where: Location: https://meet.google.com/dfz-rwpj-opq 
  
Minute taker: ? (the smart money is on Steven)

IRC: the meetings will be minuted on IRC at irc://irc.w3.org:6667/%23ixml
Details of W3C IRC use are at [1] and [2].
[1] https://www.w3.org/wiki/InternetRelayChat
[2] https://www.w3.org/wiki/IRC

Previous minutes:
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2021Dec/0032.html
https://www.w3.org/2021/12/14-ixml-minutes


AGENDA

Topic:  Previous Actions 

ACTION (2021-08-005): Tom and MSM to come with a pragma proposal.  

ACTION (2021-10-001): Steven to draft a mediatypes proposal (see 
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/6). 

ACTION (2021-12-001): Steven to add his tests to github (Done; see
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/tree/master/tests/steven)

ACTION (2021-12-002): Michael to write test catalog for Steven's
tests (Done; see .../tests/steven/SP-syntaxtests-package.zip for the
tests in the 'syntaxtests' directory and .../tests/steven/tests-SP-MSM
for the tests in the 'tests' directory)

ACTION (2021-12-003): Steven to add strings proposal to spec (Done;
the proposal in issue 12 is in the spec of 14 December 2021)

ACTION (2021-12-004): Steven implement the resolution for issue 19.

ACTION (2021-12-005): Steven implement resolution for issue 18 on XML
names.


Topic:  Release plan 

    https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2021Nov/0064.html

    (https://www.xmlprague.cz/ says XML Prague is currently scheduled
    for 9-11 June 2022.)


Topic:  Pragmas proposal

    Brief summary:
    https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2022Jan/0029.html

    Proposal: misc/pragmas-proposal.md in proposal-pragmas branch:
    https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/blob/proposal-pragmas/misc/pragmas-proposal.md

    Background: There is a longer discussion of the proposal in
    pragmas.md, with alternatives; discussion of requirements,
    desiderata, and design principles; and worked examples showing how
    processors might use the pragmas proposal for support of various
    kinds of additional functionality.

    https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/blob/proposal-pragmas/misc/pragmas.md

    See also (older discussions):

    https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2021Jun/0003 (pragmas)
    https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2021Jul/0002 (namespace decls, locality)


Bugs: For a list of all active issues, see
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/

Topic: Spec issue - eliminating distinction between @dstring and @sstring?

    https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2022Jan/0039.html
    https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/27

Topic:  Bugs - whitespace in ranges

    https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/5

Topic: Conformance issue: which grammars to accept and reject (et al.)

    Several threads and open issues are relevant here:
    - Accept ixml only or ixml and XML grammars?
    - Are processors required to detect non-conformance in grammars?
    - What constitutes non-conformance in grammars?  Are some grammar
      errors detectable only when exercised by the input? 
    - What should the spec say about other run-time errors unrelated
      to the grammar and the input?
    - What should the spec say about non-XML characters?
    - What should the spec say about ill-formed output?

    https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/20
    https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/25
    https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/21
    https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/23
    https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2021Dec/0072.html
    https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2021Dec/0073.html
    https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2021Dec/0077.html
    https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2022Jan/0028.html

Topic: Spec issue - how is ambiguity defined?

    https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2022Jan/0030.html
    https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/26

Topic:  Design issue - Does ixml have to match the whole input?

    https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2021Dec/0097.html  
    https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2021Dec/0102.html
    https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2021Apr/0007.html
    and ensuing threads
    https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/24

Topic: Editorial - make "empty" more explicit in examples

    https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/22


Topic: Status of implementations

    Any reports?

  
Topic: Statsus of testing and test suites

    Any reports?

  
Topic: Desiderata for a schema for XML grammars

    https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2021Dec/0009.html


Topic: Website
  
     https://invisiblexml.org
     https://github.com/invisibleXML/


Topic: Next meeting 

Normal date for ixml meetings is the second Tuesday of each month at 15:30 UTC

On the usual schedule, the February meeting would be Tuesday 8
February, at 15:30 UTC for one hour.
https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=ixml+online+meeting&iso=20220208T1530


Topic: Any other business 

-- 
C. M. Sperberg-McQueen
Black Mesa Technologies LLC
http://blackmesatech.com

Received on Tuesday, 11 January 2022 01:02:13 UTC