- From: C. M. Sperberg-McQueen <cmsmcq@blackmesatech.com>
- Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 18:01:46 -0700
- To: public-ixml@w3.org
- Cc: cmsmcq@blackmesatech.com
Reviewing recent discussions on the mailing list, I see some topics that
do not appear in the agenda I sent out earlier; I have added them in
what seem to be appropriate locations. The reason I missed them is that
we had not opened github issues for them.
So I'll take this opportunity to suggest that we discuss how we wish to
track issues.
Revised draft agenda follows.
ixml meeting 11 January 2022
When: Tuesday 11 January 2022 15:30 UTC for 1 hour
https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=ixml+online+meeting+January&iso=20211214T1530
Where: Location: https://meet.google.com/dfz-rwpj-opq
Minute taker: ? (the smart money is on Steven)
IRC: the meetings will be minuted on IRC at irc://irc.w3.org:6667/%23ixml
Details of W3C IRC use are at [1] and [2].
[1] https://www.w3.org/wiki/InternetRelayChat
[2] https://www.w3.org/wiki/IRC
Previous minutes:
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2021Dec/0032.html
https://www.w3.org/2021/12/14-ixml-minutes
AGENDA
Topic: Previous Actions
ACTION (2021-08-005): Tom and MSM to come with a pragma proposal.
ACTION (2021-10-001): Steven to draft a mediatypes proposal (see
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/6).
ACTION (2021-12-001): Steven to add his tests to github (Done; see
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/tree/master/tests/steven)
ACTION (2021-12-002): Michael to write test catalog for Steven's
tests (Done; see .../tests/steven/SP-syntaxtests-package.zip for the
tests in the 'syntaxtests' directory and .../tests/steven/tests-SP-MSM
for the tests in the 'tests' directory)
ACTION (2021-12-003): Steven to add strings proposal to spec (Done;
the proposal in issue 12 is in the spec of 14 December 2021)
ACTION (2021-12-004): Steven implement the resolution for issue 19.
ACTION (2021-12-005): Steven implement resolution for issue 18 on XML
names.
Topic: Release plan
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2021Nov/0064.html
(https://www.xmlprague.cz/ says XML Prague is currently scheduled
for 9-11 June 2022.)
Topic: Pragmas proposal
Brief summary:
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2022Jan/0029.html
Proposal: misc/pragmas-proposal.md in proposal-pragmas branch:
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/blob/proposal-pragmas/misc/pragmas-proposal.md
Background: There is a longer discussion of the proposal in
pragmas.md, with alternatives; discussion of requirements,
desiderata, and design principles; and worked examples showing how
processors might use the pragmas proposal for support of various
kinds of additional functionality.
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/blob/proposal-pragmas/misc/pragmas.md
See also (older discussions):
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2021Jun/0003 (pragmas)
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2021Jul/0002 (namespace decls, locality)
Bugs: For a list of all active issues, see
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/
Topic: Spec issue - eliminating distinction between @dstring and @sstring?
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2022Jan/0039.html
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/27
Topic: Bugs - whitespace in ranges
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/5
Topic: Conformance issue: which grammars to accept and reject (et al.)
Several threads and open issues are relevant here:
- Accept ixml only or ixml and XML grammars?
- Are processors required to detect non-conformance in grammars?
- What constitutes non-conformance in grammars? Are some grammar
errors detectable only when exercised by the input?
- What should the spec say about other run-time errors unrelated
to the grammar and the input?
- What should the spec say about non-XML characters?
- What should the spec say about ill-formed output?
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/20
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/25
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/21
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/23
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2021Dec/0072.html
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2021Dec/0073.html
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2021Dec/0077.html
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2022Jan/0028.html
Topic: Spec issue - how is ambiguity defined?
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2022Jan/0030.html
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/26
Topic: Design issue - Does ixml have to match the whole input?
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2021Dec/0097.html
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2021Dec/0102.html
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2021Apr/0007.html
and ensuing threads
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/24
Topic: Editorial - make "empty" more explicit in examples
https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/22
Topic: Status of implementations
Any reports?
Topic: Statsus of testing and test suites
Any reports?
Topic: Desiderata for a schema for XML grammars
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2021Dec/0009.html
Topic: Website
https://invisiblexml.org
https://github.com/invisibleXML/
Topic: Next meeting
Normal date for ixml meetings is the second Tuesday of each month at 15:30 UTC
On the usual schedule, the February meeting would be Tuesday 8
February, at 15:30 UTC for one hour.
https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=ixml+online+meeting&iso=20220208T1530
Topic: Any other business
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C. M. Sperberg-McQueen
Black Mesa Technologies LLC
http://blackmesatech.com
Received on Tuesday, 11 January 2022 01:02:13 UTC