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Re: IESG discuss: IPv6 Zone IDs

From: Martin Duerst <duerst@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 23:49:51 +0900
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To: Margaret Wasserman <margaret@thingmagic.com>(by way of Martin Duerst <duerst@w3.org>), public-iri@w3.org

Hello Margaret,

At 23:06 04/11/30, Margaret Wasserman wrote:

 >Is there a new version of the IRI spec available that contains this note?

Yes, the current 'drafty draft' version is always at
http://www.w3.org/International/iri-edit/draft-duerst-iri.txt or
whichever you prefer.

 >If so, I will check it and remove my discuss.

Looking forward to it.

Regards,    Martin.

 >At 8:07 AM +0900 11/30/04, Martin Duerst wrote:
 >>I have not heard from anybody about this issue, and I'm therefore
 >>closing it.
 >>Regards,    Martin.
 >>At 17:01 04/11/16, Martin Duerst wrote:
 >>>This is issue zoneid-48 at
 >>>Margaret Wasserman, in her 'discuss' at
 >>>brought up the question of how IPv6 Zone IDs would
 >>>be represented in IRIs. After detailled discussion involving several
 >>>members of the IESG as well as several other experts, I think the
 >>>following were the conclusions we arrived at:
 >>>[please don't ask me what Zone IDs are :-]
 >>>1) This is an issue that affects both the URI and the IRI spec, and
 >>>     should be fixed in parallel.
 >>>2) Given that use of Zone IDs will be rare (even rarer than use of
 >>>     IPv6 literals in general) in URIs and IRIs, and given that
 >>>     the IESG has already approved the URI draft, it seems unreasonable
 >>>     to hold back these drafts.
 >>>3) To make clear that Zone IDs are not handled (directly) by the current
 >>>     syntax, a sentence should be added to both the URI and the IRI draft
 >>>     to say so. Such a sentence will be added (as far as I understand)
 >>>     during the "Author's 24 hour review" period for the URI draft.
 >>>     For the IRI draft, I have added the sentence "This syntax does not
 >>>     support IPv6 scoped addressing zone identifiers." at the end of
 >>>     section 2.2. This tentatively closes this issue as far as this draft
 >>>     is concerned.
 >>>4) Even though the use of Zone IDs in URIs/IRIs shoud be very rare,
 >>>     because Zone IDs are really local to a specific machine, there are
 >>>     possible usage scenarios, in particular for configuration and network
 >>>     management, that make it worthwhile to define a syntax for Zone IDs
 >>>     in URIs/IRIs.
 >>>5) A new Internet Draft is being written by Bill Fenner and me to
 >>>     propose a syntax for Zone IDs in URIs/IRIs. We haven't figured
 >>>     out every detail yet, but I expect a submission soon. The basic
 >>>     idea of the draft is to use the IPvFuture production, which would
 >>>     lead to e.g. http://[v6.fe80::1234_1]/path/file.html.  The main
 >>>     technical detail to be resolved is the choice of separator for
 >>>     the ZoneID. The above example uses an '_'. I expect that we will
 >>>     announce this draft on uri@w3.org, but not on this list, because
 >>>     it is a generic URI syntax issue.
 >>>Regards,    Martin.
Received on Tuesday, 30 November 2004 17:11:40 UTC

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