Minutes from the telecon on 18 September

Minutes from the 18 September IndieUI teleconference are provided below as text, and are available as hypertext at:

http://www.w3.org/2013/09/18-indie-ui-minutes.html

   W3C

                                                                                   - DRAFT -

                                                             Independent User Interface Task Force Teleconference

18 Sep 2013

   See also: IRC log

Attendees

   Present
          Rich, jasonjgw, Michael_Cooper, Andy_Heath, jcraig, Cooper

   Regrets
   Chair
          Janina_Sajka

   Scribe
          andy

Contents

     * Topics
         1. preview agenda with items from two minutes
         2. TPAC2013 http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/wiki/Meetings/TPAC2013
         3. Editor's Report
         4. Events Requirements Update http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/wiki/Use_Cases_and_Requirements
         5. Events Testing Update
         6. User Context Update
     * Summary of Action Items
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   <trackbot> Date: 18 September 2013

   <janina> Meeting: IndieUI Task Force Teleconference

preview agenda with items from two minutes

   <janina> scribe: andy

   can you hear this keybparrd

   <jasonjgw> Andy: Liaison between various ISO groups and it is hoped that need/preference ideas will be integrated into the Internet of things work. This may raise
   questions for consideration by the group regarding applicability of the User contexts technology to some of their work.

   <jasonjgw> Andy acknowledges the challenge of harmonization, given the number of groups coming together around the need/preference profile idea.

   Michael: does an Accessiweb conference annually

   s/^/Braillenet

   <MichaelC> http://inova.snv.jussieu.fr/evenements/colloques/colloques/82_index_en.html#contenu

   Michael: conference date is 2013-03-31

   Andy might be the cheapest to go

   Andy is interested to go but would need to find funding

TPAC2013 http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/wiki/Meetings/TPAC2013

   Janina: chinese visas can be hard to get - there have been sme changes - recommend call the consulate before going to get a visa

   Janina - follow the TPAC URL for more info

Editor's Report

   Last commit was s1st Aug

   James has been kept busy with ARIA

Events Requirements Update http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/wiki/Use_Cases_and_Requirements

   s/Last commit was 2st Aug/Last commit was 22nd Aug

   No update on Requiremens Doc

   FPWD on reqts due just before publication of events

   17th Oct call for walkthrough of Events Requirements

Events Testing Update

   Michael: need to create some way of keeping ourselves movng

   This is a good TPAC activity

   James: suggest basing on testing in Webkit

   that is ongoing

   The automated tests for IndieUI in WebKit are mostly js that should be translatable to other agents

   <jcraig> http://trac.webkit.org/browser/trunk/LayoutTests/indieui

   tdo this at TPAC

   <MichaelC__> lost connection, missed most of last few minutes

   <jcraig> Example: 14 debug(event);

   <jcraig> 15 shouldBeTrue("typeof event == 'object'");

   <jcraig> 16

   <jcraig> 17 shouldBeTrue("'type' in event");

   <jcraig> 18 shouldBeTrue("'bubbles' in event");

   <jcraig> 19 shouldBeTrue("'cancelable' in event");

   <jcraig> 20 shouldBeTrue("'receiver' in event");

   <jcraig> 21

   <jcraig> 22 shouldBe("typeof event.type", "'string'");

   <jcraig> 23 shouldBe("typeof event.bubbles", "'boolean'");

   <jcraig> 24 shouldBe("typeof event.cancelable", "'boolean'");

   <jcraig> 25 shouldBe("typeof event.receiver", "'object'");

User Context Update

   Scheduled to work on this in the next week - for 2nd Oct

   Jason will make another trawl of 24751

   then criteria for including items in PNP profile

   then criteria for which in first version of spec

   i.e. two filters in series

   with some sort of wiki or other document specifying what isn't in 1.0 but might be done later

   and that's an issue for then

   James: might make sense to address only non-assistive technology preferences in 1.0

   discussion around exactly what kinds of stuff should be in 1.0

   james: good chance to get the general model out there before getting tangled in accessibility agendas

   desirable to not get bogged down in privacy and security issues

   multi modality of todays interfaces

   There is a framework for multidimensional gestures being developed in SC35

   when that is drafted we might look and see if there is any common ground in apporaches

   S/apporaches/approaches/

   maybe a month from now

   Jason: agrees with Janina and James

   would be useful to have some clearly expressed notion of what will be in 1.0

   for discussions/questions

   including how preferences are gathered

   what role should that play

   jason: I am suggesting looking at whether this affects which items are included in 1.0

   james: [paraphrasing] do any of the non 1.0 features impact on the interface design

   jason: we keep on running into discussions about what current user agents can collect
   ... and discussions about whether that should affect what can be included in the spec

   jason is ro summarise this issue in an email

   <jcraig> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/IndieUI/raw-file/tip/src/indie-ui-context.html

   with examples

   jason: we need to work out how these meta-issues should be decided in the context of our work

Summary of Action Items

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