- From: Dominic Mazzoni <dmazzoni@google.com>
- Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 11:21:00 -0700
- To: public-indie-ui@w3.org
http://www.w3.org/2012/09/19-indie-ui-minutes.html
[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
- DRAFT -
Independent User Interface Task Force Teleconference
19 Sep 2012
See also: [2]IRC log
[2] http://www.w3.org/2012/09/19-indie-ui-irc
Attendees
Present
Katie_Haritos-Shea, Dominic, jcraig, Janina,
James_Craig, Joseph_Scheuhammer, Andy_Heath, Cooper
Regrets
Chair
Janina_Sajka
Scribe
dmazzoni
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]Admin Update: Repository; Tracker; Editor's Draft;
TPAC
2. [5]admin: Polling for Telecon Time?
3. [6]admin: WAI IndieUI WG Telecon on 10 October
4. [7]Capturing Decisions from Use Cases Walkthrough
5. [8]ISO Liaison
6. [9]Access4All 3
* [10]Summary of Action Items
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<trackbot> Date: 19 September 2012
<janina> Meeting: IndieUI Task Force telecon
<andy> trying to get on - I hate this sip client
<janina> Andy, talk with me off line about sip clients.
<scribe> scribe: dmazzoni
Admin Update: Repository; Tracker; Editor's Draft; TPAC
JES: top item - Michael, any news on the repository and
tracker, any bugs?
MC: everything's working
JES: James, any update on the drafts?
JC: Checked in. Not at a point where I need feedback, but
always welcome of course.
MC: I'm not seeing them in Mercurial? Nevermind, looks like my
problem
admin: Polling for Telecon Time?
JS: any questions, comments, anyone? Next topic
<jcraig> FYI, this Mercurial tutorial by Joel Spolsky is
especially useful [11]http://hginit.com
[11] http://hginit.com/
JS: We planned to canvas task force participants to see if
there's a better time for this meeting to accomodate Asia and
Australia at least sometimes
<MichaelC> [12]Meeting time poll
[12] https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/54997/2012_meetings/
JS: I think we can announce it in email, but Michael can also
post it to IRC
... Any questions on this poll?
... There are two W3C working groups that constitute this task
force. The other one is Web Events. From the web accessibility
side, we formed a new working group there.
... The Indie UI task force is made up of members of the WAI
Indie UI working group and Web Events.
JC: So some people who participate on these calls are not
members of the WAI Indie UI working group?
JS: Correct, they might be members of Web Events
MC: The intellectual property belongs to the Indie UI working
group. Web Events considers that overlaps its charter.
JS: An organizational telecon for members of the WAI Indie UI
working group (which isn't everyone) will meet on Oct 10. This
shouldn't happen very often. However, if there are
disagreements it's possible for that group to caucus on its
own. When there's consensus there shouldn't be much need for
that.
JC: What about meeting time at TPAC?
JS: Not planning on it, but planning for the task force to
meet.
admin: WAI IndieUI WG Telecon on 10 October
Capturing Decisions from Use Cases Walkthrough
JS: So, how to we want to capture this list of features / items
that we want to develop specifications for, other than going
through the minutes? Brainstorm?
... Michael and I developed 4 specific ideas that might be a
good starting point.
MC: Just a second...
... 1. wiki scratchpad, 2. copy spec into the wiki, allow
editing, 3. allow members to edit branches in Hg, 4. find a
tool that tracks resolutions
<MichaelC> perhaps a wiki scratchpad of features
<MichaelC> or copy of spec in wiki to edit as proposals
<MichaelC> or have members edit Mercurial branches to make
proposals
<MichaelC> or track resolutions
MC: to clarify 4, track "RESOLUTION" in IRC meeting logs to
track what we decided
AH: is the only difference the output?
MC: clarifies some differences about the processes
JC: my preference would be to track resolutions and issues and
actions
... If things are not controversial, the editor can just add
them, otherwise we can discuss
<andy> `zakim, q+ andy
JC: I also like the Mercurial idea for later, after the edits
have settled a bit
<MichaelC> ack
AH: expresses agreement
<andy> zakiim, q+ andy
MC: the wiki can still be a place to make proposals, then the
editor can copy to trunk
<andy> just q_ then ?
<andy> oops
<Zakim> jcraig, you wanted to discuss using wiki pages for
individual issues, rather than whole spec edits
JC: I propose we keep wiki pages to one page per issue / change
proposal, as opposed to having one giant wiki page - too hard
to track otherwise
JS: sounds reasonable
... are we confident that everything is captured in either the
spec or a tracker?
<clown> [13]https://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/actions/open
[13] https://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/actions/open
JC: just actions in the tracker so far, what about ideas for
ideas from one from Andy, one from Joseph
JS: we need to track everything, stop relying on our memories
<jcraig> ACTION: jcraig to incorporate Andy Heath's proposal
into User Context spec [recorded in
[14]http://www.w3.org/2012/09/19-indie-ui-minutes.html#action01
]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-11 - Incorporate Andy Heath's
proposal into User Context spec [on James Craig - due
2012-09-26].
AH: credit Rich with that proposal as well
<jcraig> ACTION: jcraig to incorporate group change proposal
(sent in and formatted by Joseph) [recorded in
[15]http://www.w3.org/2012/09/19-indie-ui-minutes.html#action02
]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-12 - Incorporate group change
proposal (sent in and formatted by Joseph) [on James Craig -
due 2012-09-26].
JC: Should we use a public tracker? This tracker requires a W3C
account
... Should be sufficient if the public can view, not edit
JS: And we have email to capture comments from anyone
<MichaelC> the IndieUI tracker is in public space and doesn't
require account to view
<MichaelC> does require to edit (since you have to be member of
group)
ISO Liaison
<clown> "Global Public Inclusive Infrastructure"
<clown> [16]http://gpii.net
[16] http://gpii.net/
AH: I've been asked to liase between GPII and this group
... Building a registry that anyone can use. The preferences
that Rich and I proposed are going into that registry.
... ISO SC36 (?) is standardizing the registry. There may be
terms coming out of this group that could go into this registry
... ISO SC35 (user interfaces) also includes accessibility; the
world wants one standard so I hope we can harmonize
JS: ISO SC36?
AH: ISO SC36 is for learning and education, historically - but
not education-specific
Joseph: what exactly goes in the registry?
AH: an example term that might go in the registry is "visual"
... doesn't distinguish between needs and preferences. I'll
point everyone to the wiki
JS: What is a liaison? Should we nominate one to SC36?
<jcraig> Andy/Rich proposal (DOCX) archived here:
[17]http://www.w3.org/mid/501A402B.3080705@axelrod.plus.com
[17] http://www.w3.org/mid/501A402B.3080705@axelrod.plus.com
JS: (restating AH): so, raise flag when they notice an
inconsistency between proposals in the two groups
Access4All 3
AH: one last announcement: access4all 3 is out
<clown> [18]http://imsglobal.org/accessibility/#afav3
[18] http://imsglobal.org/accessibility/#afav3
<clown> ?
JS: thanks. we didn't get to use cases, but we will next time.
Zakim: bye
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: jcraig to incorporate Andy Heath's proposal into
User Context spec [recorded in
[19]http://www.w3.org/2012/09/19-indie-ui-minutes.html#action01
]
[NEW] ACTION: jcraig to incorporate group change proposal (sent
in and formatted by Joseph) [recorded in
[20]http://www.w3.org/2012/09/19-indie-ui-minutes.html#action02
]
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