Re: Where should CG work go?

On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 3:58 AM, Bob Lund <B.Lund@cablelabs.com> wrote:
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> On 3/12/14, 5:24 AM, "Silvia Pfeiffer" <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Bob Lund <B.Lund@cablelabs.com> wrote:
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>>>
>>> On 3/9/14, 11:28 PM, "Silvia Pfeiffer" <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
>>>wrote:
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>>>>Hi Bob,
>>>>
>>>>On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 3:54 AM, Bob Lund <B.Lund@cablelabs.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi CG,
>>>>>
>>>>> The Wiki table for video/audio track [1] defines how to determine
>>>>>'kind' for
>>>>> MPEG-2 TS video and audio streams. We can create similar tables for
>>>>>the
>>>>> other containers of interest: MP4 ISOBMFF, DASH, WebM and Ogg. The
>>>>>HTML
>>>>>CR
>>>>> has a table describing what the UA should return for video.kind and
>>>>> audio.kind [2]. So it would seem that we should add the examples for
>>>>>[1] to
>>>>> [2].
>>>>
>>>>Agreed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> [1] also defines how to set the language and id attributes for MPEG-2
>>>>>TS
>>>>> (and other formats in the future). Should this information also be
>>>>>added to
>>>>> [2], perhaps in a similar table to what exists?
>>>>
>>>>Yes, I think the HTML spec should have similar tables as for the @kind
>>>>attribute also for @id, @language and @label for all the media formats
>>>>that UAs support. Note that some of that information is already
>>>>available on our wiki page
>>>>https://www.w3.org/community/inbandtracks/wiki/Main_Page but needs to
>>>>be formulated as a table (as you have done for "text kind table").
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The Wiki has a table for text tracks [3] and text track cue [4]
>>>>>creation.
>>>>> This could be added to the HTML5 spec in the text track section.
>>>>
>>>>Yes, I think those are good ideas.
>>>>
>>>>> What do you think about adding this information to the HTML
>>>>>recommendation?
>>>>> The alternative would be another recommendation that is referenced by
>>>>>the
>>>>> HTML rec. Thoughts?
>>>>
>>>>No, the HTML spec is the right place for it.
>>>>
>>>>I would recommend registering a bug for every section that needs
>>>>updating and every attribute.
>>>>
>>>>So, a bug each for:
>>>>
>>>>https://www.w3.org/community/inbandtracks/wiki/Main_Page#Audio_and_video
>>>>_k
>>>>ind_table
>>>>
>>>>https://www.w3.org/community/inbandtracks/wiki/Main_Page#Text_kind_table
>>>>(this needs updating with information from other formats)
>>>
>>> Išve update with what I know for ISOBMFF. Can someone either supply me
>>> with information for WebM and Ogg or update the table in the wiki with
>>> same information?
>>
>>I think there is still the part about label and language missing for
>>ISOBMFF - and some if not all of it is available below:
>>https://www.w3.org/community/inbandtracks/wiki/Main_Page#ISOBMFF_2 . I
>>don't know if that is correct, so I didn't touch it.
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> I'ver completed this for MPEG-2 TS, ISOBMFF and DASH in
> https://www.w3.org/community/inbandtracks/wiki/Main_Page#Audio.2FVideo.2FTe
> xt_Track_Creation.
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> This table
> https://www.w3.org/community/inbandtracks/wiki/Main_Page#Guidelines_for_cre
> ating_metadata_text_track_cues is only filled out for MPEG-2 TS. Do we
> need equivalent information for the other media container formats?

I'll check as I prepare patches, but I think most of that already
exists for the other formats.

Cheers,
Silvia.

Received on Monday, 17 March 2014 00:28:30 UTC