- From: Tobie Langel <tobie@unlockopen.com>
- Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 00:58:58 +0200
- To: Léonie Watson <lwatson@tetralogical.com>
- Cc: Annette Greiner <amgreiner@lbl.gov>, Inclusion and Diversity Community Group <public-idcg@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAKgxSaAR1OfSWC2hErN1WGKnA=eXc4sBNe=VStcS+BqFzT_TsA@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 8:04 PM Léonie Watson <lwatson@tetralogical.com> wrote: > > On 25/08/2020 12:43, Tobie Langel wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 10:40 AM Léonie Watson <lwatson@tetralogical.com > > <mailto:lwatson@tetralogical.com>> wrote: > > > > I have a concern with Marisa's proposed change. If we specifically > say > > we do not support violence against marginalised people it implies > that > > we do support it against non-marginalised people > > > > > > Not really. It means that we recognize that marginalized communities are > > the target of much more violence, proportionally, than > > non-marginalized ones. > > > > Saying Black Lives Matter isn't saying that other lives don't matter. > > It's saying that we need to do something about the fact that society, as > > a whole, acts as if Black lives mattered less than other ones. > > > > So, much like saying "all lives matter" in this context is essentially > > negating systemic racism, saying that we condemn violence against > > everyone either is a complete platitude, specifically implying that > > marginalized communities aren't subject to more violence than > > non-marginalized ones, or even worse, is a dog whistle[1] suggesting the > > protests are causing violence. > > I think this mischaracterises my concern. > > My concern is producing a statement that, by implication, condones > violence done to a person from a marginalised community by another > person from the same community. > Oh, apologies. I indeed did not understand your comment that way at all. > Have we considered getting this statement reviewed by someone external > > who understands the dynamics at play here? > > > > We haven't, no. If we can find someone who understands the limitations > we're working with, and who might be able to take a look in the next few > days, it would provide some valuable insight though. > I would have suggested getting someone like Kim Crayton[2] to review the statement, but I suspect there's no budget for this. --tobie --- [2]: https://hashtagcauseascene.com/about-kim/
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