- From: Addison Phillips [wM] <aphillips@webmethods.com>
- Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 17:12:51 -0700
- To: <public-i18n-ws@w3.org>
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<apphillips> invite zakim
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<apphillips> zakim, this is i18n
<Zakim> ok, apphillips; that matches I18N_WSTF()7:00PM
<MJDuerst> zakim, this is i18n
<Zakim> MJDuerst, this was already I18N_WSTF()7:00PM
<Zakim> ok, MJDuerst; that matches I18N_WSTF()7:00PM
<apphillips> zakim, who is on?
<Zakim> I don't understand your question, apphillips.
<apphillips> zakim, who is here?
<Zakim> On the phone I see [IBM], [Sun], ??P2
<Zakim> On IRC I see MJDuerst, apphillips, avine, Tex
<apphillips> zakim, ??P2 is apphillips
<Zakim> +apphillips; got it
<MJDuerst> zakim, dial Martin-617
<Zakim> ok, MJDuerst; the call is being made
<Zakim> +Martin
<apphillips> zakim, [Sun] is avine
<Zakim> +avine; got it
<Zakim> +Tex
<Zakim> +Mike_McKenna
<apphillips> AI review:
<apphillips> no WSCG reminder
<apphillips> (AP)
<apphillips> did reorder AI list (A)
<apphillips> --
<apphillips> http://www.w3.org/International/ws/ws-i18n-scenarios-edit/ActionItemList.html
<apphillips> discussion of a.vine's difficulty mailing addison and addison's faulty memory
<apphillips> (4.16.x)
<apphillips> AV: to send to list again
<apphillips> MD: to do text on IRIs
<avine> I have written sections 4.16.1, 4.16.2, 4.16.3, and 4.16.3.1 Martin needs to do 4.16.4
<apphillips> http://www.w3.org/International/ws/ws-i18n-scenarios-edit/Overview.xml#id0x021a6328
<apphillips> AI item 14
<apphillips> show s:actor attribute
<apphillips> tex: intro should enumerate things
<apphillips> second para needs crafting to link three indep. thoughts.
<apphillips> header changes or removal may cause problems in this approach
<apphillips> TT: to give it a try tonight, otherwise it is APs
<apphillips> ---
<apphillips> #13
<apphillips> Visa vs. Carte Bleu
<apphillips> MM
<apphillips> in progress
<apphillips> ---
<apphillips> #25
<apphillips> Let's remove the note.(?)
<apphillips> Editorial note: FTF 2004-03-29
<apphillips> Also there is a lingering note to mention RFC2277... or make it a reference or something... and heck we can mention 3536 and the CharMod and some other stuff. [Owner Mike]
<apphillips> approved.
<apphillips> ---
<apphillips> Addison has received Andrea's mail
<avine> Andrea who?
<apphillips> Vine
<apphillips> zakim, who is avine?
<Zakim> I don't understand your question, apphillips.
<apphillips> ---
<apphillips> how do you want to finalize?
<apphillips> a) our own approval
<apphillips> b) last call?
<apphillips> will finish and then get a week
<apphillips> Target is 24 June for us to approve.
<apphillips> comments submitted prior to meeting
<apphillips> Note pub process takes about a week +/-
<apphillips> ---
<apphillips> Transports
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<apphillips> Need to provide statement about transports: good/bad/ugly
<apphillips> Text Texit
<Tex> zakim, mute tex
<Zakim> Tex should now be muted
<apphillips> (discussion)
<Tex> zakim, unmute tex
<Zakim> Tex should no longer be muted
<apphillips> dont rely on the transport?
<apphillips> don't use the protocol layer to move locale-ish stuff?
<mgm> locale-specific stuff should be sent as part of the payload - esp for ftp
<apphillips> if the service needs requesters locale, should you use HTTP A-L to get it?
<apphillips> {no}?
<mgm> I would say always use SOAP header - HTTP A-L is preferred if using HTTP, but should be redundant with SOAP
<apphillips> illustrate the problem.
<apphillips> don't need a solution
<mgm> locale in HTTP -> passed to ftp (lose locale of envelope). If in SOAP, no info lost
<avine> sounds like a "no"
<apphillips> AP: owner
<apphillips> ---
<avine> sure
<apphillips> http://www.w3.org/International/ws/ws-i18n-requirements-edit/Overview.html
<apphillips> http://www.w3.org/International/ws/ws-i18n-requirements-edit/Overview.xml
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<apphillips> Requirement: A standard for identifying platform neutral international
<apphillips> preferences (that is, locale identifiers). One possible mechanism would be a standard
<apphillips> extension to the proposed extension [ID-langtags] of
<apphillips> RFC 3066 [RFC3066] that describes international preferences.
<apphillips> Some of the items that such an extension would describe might include:
<apphillips> Given the evoluation of Web services, it seems likely that such a feature would take the form of a Specification that can be used composably with others in the WS-* stack.
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<avine> what effort are you talking about now?
<avine> (I lost the link to IRC)
<apphillips> the Charter for the I18N WG
<avine> Ah, yes, got it
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<Zakim> -Tex
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<apphillips> disaster movie review
<Zakim> -avine
<Zakim> -Mike_McKenna
<Zakim> -[IBM]
<Zakim> -apphillips
<apphillips> Martin?
<Zakim> -Martin
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<Zakim> I18N_WSTF()7:00PM has ended
<Zakim> Attendees were [IBM], apphillips, Martin, avine, Tex, Mike_McKenna
Addison P. Phillips
Director, Globalization Architecture
webMethods | Delivering Global Business Visibility
http://www.webMethods.com
Chair, W3C Internationalization (I18N) Working Group
Chair, W3C-I18N-WG, Web Services Task Force
http://www.w3.org/International
Internationalization is an architecture.
It is not a feature.
Received on Thursday, 10 June 2004 20:14:15 UTC