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Bordering clearly between Mordern Mongolian and Ancient Mongolian solution.

From: <jrmt@almas.co.jp>
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 19:19:31 +0900
To: "'Greg Eck'" <greck@postone.net>, "'r12a'" <ishida@w3.org>, <public-i18n-mongolian@w3.org>
Cc: <foximoyi@icloud.com>, <csmhjy@126.com>, "'siqin'" <siqin@almas.co.jp>
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Hi Greg & Richard Ishida



I am reading Mongolian Variant Form list on
<https://r12a.github.io/mongolian-variants/>
https://r12a.github.io/mongolian-variants/ now.

We have got another one additional column WG2, that is sourced from the
proposals in  <http://www.unicode.org/L2/L2016/16309-mongolian-adds.pdf>
L2/16-309, Proposed additions for Mongolian in 5th edition of UCS (26
October, 2016).



I did read the original proposal documents in Inner Mongolia, but it was
slightly different with this final version.

I think this L2/16-309 document is the final version of the proposal to WG2
from Chinese government.



Before getting into detailed discussion, I should introduce the current
situation of this document in Inner Mongolia.

This document is not widely accepted by most of the Inner Mongolian Experts
till now.

There are a lot of Mongolian people are discussing and arguing on this
proposals making more confusion on Mongolian Unicode Encoding.

Most of the end users are angering at the proposed experts are only
concentrating on Ancient Mongolian and clearly ignoring the Modern Mongolian
Usage.

Currently, the Modern Mongolian Unicode part have not been able to get reach
to stabilized and unified status.

All of the Mongolian users are greatly confused the implementation
differences and are strongly expecting all of them unified on one encoding
rule as soon as possible.



According to current situation, we should primarily concentrate our all
discussion on Modern Mongolian part (include Mongolian, Todo, Sibe, Manchu)
is the proper approach.

After get the Modern Mongolian stabilized, we can continue to discuss the
Ancient Mongolian part to get broaden ability to handle all of the history
materials.



When we are implementing the Modern Mongolian part of the Encoding, if we
discuss them with the Ancient Mongolian part,

1.       It will become long term discussion or endless argument.

2.       The Ancient Mongolian character variant occupies the Modern
Mongolian Encoding space, and lead the FVSs shortage. (L2/16-309 already
introduced VS1, VS2…).



Here I would like to introduce one Bordering Principle for Modern Mongolian
and Ancient Mongolian.

1.    For the Modern Mongolian Variant Form, we use FVS1, FVS2, FVS3.

2.    For the Ancient Mongolian Variant Form, we use VS1, VS2, VS3, VS4,…
…..



Currently, in our DS01, we are facing one FVS shortage for U182D_GA medial
form.

3.    I propose we pull all of the U182C_QA and U182D_GA, feminine forminto
the Ancient Mongolian.

It will make the Modern Mongolian Encoding more easy and more clear.(DS01
already put the medial U182C_QA,and U182D_GA)



I would like to ask all of your opinion on this and expect to get agreement
on it.

It will give our Mongolian End user more understandable, clear encoding
solution and not restricting the researchers requirements.



I would like to ask Chen Zhuang, if you are reading this forum,please ask
if Professor Que agrees this proposals or not.

Otherwise, It is hardly to persuade all of the Mongolian people who are
arguing against him now, I think.



Thanks and Best regards,



Jirimutu

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