- From: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 23:47:25 +0900
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Felix
[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
i18n ITS WG
9 May 2007
[2]Agenda
[2]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2007AprJun/0028.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2007/05/09-i18nits-irc
Attendees
Present
Yves, Felix, Andrzej, Christian
Regrets
Jirka, Sebastian
Chair
Yves
Scribe
Felix
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]action items
2. [6]ISO and ITS
3. [7]Reviewing W3C Work for ITS
4. [8]BP WD
5. [9]f2f meeting
6. [10]AOB
* [11]Summary of Action Items
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action items
<scribe> ACTION: Everybody to look at the DocBook section from Jirka
(ONGOING) [recorded in
[12]http://www.w3.org/2007/05/09-i18nits-minutes.html#action01]
<YvesS>
[13]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007AprJun/0
019.html
[13]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007AprJun/0019.html
Felix: wondered which version Jirka thinks about
Yves: version 5
Felix: what about previous versions?
Yves: question for Jirka
... did not see an issue, only worried about the long list of
non-translatable elements
... losts of special tags are hard to know whether they are
translatable or not
... we need to make sure that these are only seen as examples
... so next step: ask Jirka about the version, Felix will give him
access to the editing directory
<scribe> ACTION: Felix to prepare access for Jirka for the BP
directory [recorded in
[14]http://www.w3.org/2007/05/09-i18nits-minutes.html#action02]
<scribe> ACTION: Everybody to think about the idea: consider to have
all existing schemas "ITS+..." with only markup which is not already
in the schema, e.g. "ITS+XHTML" without its:dir? And have a general
guideline to do that for existing schemas. (ONGOING) [recorded in
[15]http://www.w3.org/2007/05/09-i18nits-minutes.html#action03]
Yves: agree with the consideration, but we need also to describe the
mapping between the format and the ITS data category
... otherwise, people can just remove the corresponding attribute
from the ITS schemas for their customization
Felix: we will need to modify the existing sections in the BP
document if we agree on that
Yves: btw., I reworked the DITA example
<scribe> ACTION: editors of BP document to change the descriptions
of ITS+existing schemas to say that there is no need to have ITS
attributes for existing markup, and have association rules instead
[recorded in
[16]http://www.w3.org/2007/05/09-i18nits-minutes.html#action04]
<scribe> ACTION: Christian to send comment on EMMA (DONE) [recorded
in [17]http://www.w3.org/2007/05/09-i18nits-minutes.html#action05]
<scribe> ACTION: Everybody to look at SPARQL and the SPARQL result
format for potential ITS review (PENDING) [recorded in
[18]http://www.w3.org/2007/05/09-i18nits-minutes.html#action06]
<scribe> ACTION: Everybody to look into XLIFF 1.2, TMX 2, SRX 2
(ONGOING) [recorded in
[19]http://www.w3.org/2007/05/09-i18nits-minutes.html#action07]
[20]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007AprJun/0
029.html
[20]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007AprJun/0029.html
(comments from Yves on TMX)
Andrzej: your comments look good to me
Felix: +1
<YvesS>
[21]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007AprJun/0
029.html
[21]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007AprJun/0029.html
Christian: have not looked at TMX so far
Yves: we will wait for another week
(nobody else looked at SRX or XLIFF 1.2 so far)
<scribe> ACTION: Yves to look on Atom and the bidi attribute and
possibly ITS in general (PENDING) [recorded in
[22]http://www.w3.org/2007/05/09-i18nits-minutes.html#action08]
ISO and ITS
[23]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007AprJun/0
020.html
[23]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007AprJun/0020.html
Yves: is there a requirement for implementations?
Felix: don't think so
Christian: got some feedback internally, there will be some effort
required
... like fill in forms, reform the spec
Yves: we will make a final decision about ITS as ISO at the f2f
meeting
... I know some ISO people and will contact them as well
<scribe> ACTION: Yves to contact some ISO people about the "ITS as
ISO standard" topic [recorded in
[24]http://www.w3.org/2007/05/09-i18nits-minutes.html#action09]
Reviewing W3C Work for ITS
<YvesS> [25]http://www.w3.org/TR/#last-call
[25] http://www.w3.org/TR/#last-call
(discussion on CC/PP, no review seems necessary)
BP WD
Yves: no changes recently
Felix: how about some milestones for the document?
Yves: yes, a first milestones would be Wd publication with DocBook
section
... I'll add that to the agenda
f2f meeting
agenda at
[26]http://www.w3.org/International/its/ftf-200705-Paris.html#Object
ive
[26]
http://www.w3.org/International/its/ftf-200705-Paris.html#Objective
ISO topic is already in agenda, "milestone" need to be added,
Christian wanted also general organization of the WG
Christian: would suggest that as a generic topic at the beginning
... maybe also a slot of briefing things related to ITS
... do we need a bridge during the meeting?
... in other (also not ITS f2f meetings), long calls where not
productive
agreement to reserve a bridge from 4:30-5:30 for Monday and Tuesday
<scribe> ACTION: Felix to reserve a bridge from 4:30-5:30 for Monday
and Tuesday [recorded in
[27]http://www.w3.org/2007/05/09-i18nits-minutes.html#action10]
AOB
Christian: submitted a draft for the OASIS day about ITS, will take
about a month to get feedback
Felix: submitted something to Unicode also about ITS, was accepted
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: editors of BP document to change the descriptions of
ITS+existing schemas to say that there is no need to have ITS
attributes for existing markup, and have association rules instead
[recorded in
[28]http://www.w3.org/2007/05/09-i18nits-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: Felix to prepare access for Jirka for the BP directory
[recorded in
[29]http://www.w3.org/2007/05/09-i18nits-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Felix to reserve a bridge from 4:30-5:30 for Monday
and Tuesday [recorded in
[30]http://www.w3.org/2007/05/09-i18nits-minutes.html#action10]
[NEW] ACTION: Yves to contact some ISO people about the "ITS as ISO
standard" topic [recorded in
[31]http://www.w3.org/2007/05/09-i18nits-minutes.html#action09]
[PENDING] ACTION: Everybody to look at SPARQL and the SPARQL result
format for potential ITS review [recorded in
[32]http://www.w3.org/2007/05/09-i18nits-minutes.html#action06]
[PENDING] ACTION: Everybody to look at the DocBook section from
Jirka [recorded in
[33]http://www.w3.org/2007/05/09-i18nits-minutes.html#action01]
[PENDING] ACTION: Everybody to look into XLIFF 1.2, TMX 2, SRX 2
[recorded in
[34]http://www.w3.org/2007/05/09-i18nits-minutes.html#action07]
[PENDING] ACTION: Everybody to think about the idea: consider to
have all existing schemas "ITS+..." with only markup which is not
already in the schema, e.g. "ITS+XHTML" without its:dir? And have a
general guideline to do that for existing schemas. [recorded in
[35]http://www.w3.org/2007/05/09-i18nits-minutes.html#action03]
[PENDING] ACTION: Yves to look on Atom and the bidi attribute and
possibly ITS in general [recorded in
[36]http://www.w3.org/2007/05/09-i18nits-minutes.html#action08]
[DONE] ACTION: Christian to send comment on EMMA [recorded in
[37]http://www.w3.org/2007/05/09-i18nits-minutes.html#action05]
[End of minutes]
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