RE: What does "attaching ITS information" mean?

Hi Yves,

On Mon, 2006-12-11 at 06:09 -0700, Yves Savourel wrote:
> Hi Felix, all,
> 
> The <its:locNote_Text> is a mistake. It should be just <locNote_Text> (sometimes we have <locNote_Reference>). The its prefix is a
> bug. The goal was to make the distinction between text and reference.

Thanks, I now remember the discussion.

> 
> I think the question is: should we have its markup at all in the output file? Strictly speaking things like its:locNoteType in
> <output> are not ITS.
> 
> I would propose to just get rid of any ITS markup in the output, and use the same attributes.

sorry, I don't understand: what attributes do you want to use? Also, in
the case of <p its:locNote="Some locale note"> versus a global
localization note: would you put all contents of the localization note
in <locNote_Text> element, no matter if the note comes from global or a
local ITS markup? My question again would be: were to we describe this
in the draft, since it is different to e.g. its:translate or
its:withinText ? I'm also asking because my "generic" ITS processor does
only understand what is in the draft, so it is not able to produce
decide "should I produce just text (in the case of locNote) or copy ITS
markup? (in the case of its:translate)" ;)

Cheers,

Felix

> 
> Cheers,
> -yves
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-i18n-its-request@w3.org [mailto:public-i18n-its-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Felix Sasaki
> Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 9:16 PM
> To: public-i18n-its@w3.org
> Subject: What does "attaching ITS information" mean?
> 
> 
> I looked at
> 1) http://www.w3.org/International/its/tests/test2/LocNote1-result.xml
> and 2)
> http://www.w3.org/International/its/tests/test2/WithinText2-result.xml
> and have a question:
> 
> in the case of 1), the result is created by generating a "dummy"
> <locNote_text> element, which contains the localization note:
>     <node path="/msgList/body[1]/msg[3]" outputType="new-value-global">
>       <output its:locNoteType="alert">
>         <its:locNote_Text>The variable &lt;code&gt;{0}&lt;/code&gt; has three possible values: 'printer',
>     'stacker' and 'stapler options'.</its:locNote_Text>
>       </output>
>     </node>
> 
> in the case of 2), the result is created by copying ITS markup to the <output> element, i.e. the its:withinText attribute:
> <node path="/myDocument/content[1]/section[1]/p[1]/kw[1]"
> outputType="new-value-global">
> <output its:withinText="yes"/>
> </node>
> 
> Why this difference? In the case of 1), there would be an <its:locNote> element available which could be used instead of
> <its:locNote_Text>, see the rule from LocNote1.xml:
>  <its:locNoteRule locNoteType="alert" selector="//msg[@id='DisableInfo']">
>     <its:locNote>The variable <code>{0}</code> has three possible
> values: 'printer',
>     'stacker' and 'stapler options'.</its:locNote>
>    </its:locNoteRule>
> 
> What worries me about the difference of the output for 1) and 2): how does an ITS processor "know" whether it should just generate
> textual content,like 2), or copy the ITS markup, like 1)? We have not specified that difference anywhere in the draft. And: what
> would happen in the case of 1) if the localization Note contains markup, e.g.
> <its:locNote_Text>The <term>variable</term> &lt;code&gt;{0}&lt;/code&gt; has three possible values: 'printer', 'stacker' and
> 'stapler options'.</its:locNote_Text> would the markup be copied to the output or thrown away?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Felix
> 
> 
>

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