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Felix
[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
i18n ITS Working Group
6 Dec 2006
[2]Agenda
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006OctDec/0043.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2006/12/06-i18nits-irc
Attendees
Present
Andrzej, Christian, Felix, Sebastian, Yves
Regrets
Richard
Chair
Yves
Scribe
Felix
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]action items
2. [6]CR phase: current state
3. [7]on output format
4. [8]getting rid of ns element?
5. [9]Inheritence and Override
6. [10]full xpath in selectors
7. [11]f2f next year
8. [12]ITS talks
9. [13]AOB
* [14]Summary of Action Items
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action items
<scribe> ACTION: Sebastian to create a big test file for the ITS
test suite (>1 MB) to test the implementation efficiency of
namespace binding(s) (DONE) [recorded in
[15]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/06-i18nits-minutes.html#action01]
Sebastian: it does not test very much, only has translate yes / no
Felix: should we have pointer attributes in the big file?
<scribe> ACTION: Sebastian to insert some pointer-like data category
information into the huge test file [recorded in
[16]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/06-i18nits-minutes.html#action02]
CR phase: current state
Felix: we could request PR maybe in December, but I'd say first half
of January is o.k. too
Sebastian: is the namespace issue resolved? Can I change my
implementation like that?
Andrzej: I have to check with my team
Yves: I work with Dom, like you do, so there should be no problem, I
can tell you how it works
<AZ> <its:rules its:version="1.0"
xmlns:its="[17]http://www.w3.org/2005/11/its">
[17] http://www.w3.org/2005/11/its
(test data discussion)
<AZ> <its:ns prefix="table"
uri="[18]http://openoffice.org/2000/table"/>
[18] http://openoffice.org/2000/table
<AZ> <its:ns prefix="number"
uri="[19]http://openoffice.org/2000/datastyle"/>
[19] http://openoffice.org/2000/datastyle
Andrzej: example is from OpenOffice ITS rules file
<AZ> <its:translateRule selector="//chart:axis" translate="yes"/>
Yves: you need to use the xmlns attributes instead of the <its:ns>
element
<scribe> ACTION: Andrzej to check if his implementation works with
without the <ns> element, using xmlns instead [recorded in
[20]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/06-i18nits-minutes.html#action03]
on output format
Sebastian: is the output type optional?
... at the moment it would be complicated to support the output type
Felix: No need to have that information
Yves: o.k., output type is optional
Sebastian: we need a script to compare the results
<scribe> ACTION: Felix to write a script which compares the results
[recorded in
[21]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/06-i18nits-minutes.html#action04]
Sebastian: can the output of nodes be different?
... i.e. the order of nodes? I guess not
getting rid of ns element?
Sebastian: could we have both the ns elements and xmlns attributes
in the test files, intermediately?
<scribe> ACTION: Yves to make sure to have both the ns elements and
xmlns attributes in the test files, intermediately [recorded in
[22]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/06-i18nits-minutes.html#action05]
<YvesS> [23]http://www.w3.org/International/its/tests/
[23] http://www.w3.org/International/its/tests/
Sebastian: test result page: Do we need success in each cell?
Felix: we need success in two columns for each row
Inheritence and Override
Yves: I thought lately that a local rule would override everything,
also what is selected by a global rule directly
... Felix pointed out that CSS does the same as ITS currently
Sebastian: two questions: is the interpretation correct, and is it
clear in the spec?
Yves: agree. It is not clear in the spec currently
... we also have no sample which addresses the issue
Andrzej: we define every element explicitely
... we stipulate for every element what information applies for it
... we don't reply on inheritance
Yves: you put labels to the tree?
Andrzej: right
Yves makes an example for a global rule that selects s.t. inside a
locally specified element, e.g. locally <p>, globally <b>
Yves: would the <b> inside <p> be overriden by the local <p> ?
Andrzej: no
<scribe> ACTION: Yves to make an inheritance & overriding example
for Andrzej and send it to him, both verify that inheritance works
the right way [recorded in
[24]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/06-i18nits-minutes.html#action06]
Sebastian: I don't see an alternative to having inheritance as a
"second stage" thing
full xpath in selectors
see
[25]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006OctDec/0
044.html
[25] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2006OctDec/0044.html
Sebastian: should we have a subset of XPath in XSLT?
Felix: hard to test, maybe
Yves: how about having this as a best practice?
Sebastian: if the rule is simple and easy to understand we could
just add it
Felix: should this be a note or normative text?
Sebastian: depends on how complex this his
[26]http://www.w3.org/TR/xslt#NT-Pattern
[26] http://www.w3.org/TR/xslt#NT-Pattern
<scribe> ACTION: Felix to explain what axes are possible with the
XSLT pattern used in the match attributes [recorded in
[27]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/06-i18nits-minutes.html#action07]
f2f next year
Yves: if you have ideas, please propose them
ITS talks
Yves: thanks to Christian to the talk at TEKOM
Christian: thanks, the talks made clear that ITS is known, people
are waiting for commercial tools
AOB
Adjourn
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Andrzej to check if his implementation works with
without the <ns> element, using xmlns instead [recorded in
[28]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/06-i18nits-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Felix to explain what axes are possible with the XSLT
pattern used in the match attributes [recorded in
[29]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/06-i18nits-minutes.html#action07]
[NEW] ACTION: Felix to write a script which compares the results
[recorded in
[30]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/06-i18nits-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: Sebastian to insert some pointer-like data category
information into the huge test file [recorded in
[31]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/06-i18nits-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Yves to make an inheritance & overriding example for
Andrzej and send it to him, both verify that inheritance works the
right way [recorded in
[32]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/06-i18nits-minutes.html#action06]
[NEW] ACTION: Yves to make sure to have both the ns elements and
xmlns attributes in the test files, intermediately [recorded in
[33]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/06-i18nits-minutes.html#action05]
[DONE] ACTION: Sebastian to create a big test file for the ITS test
suite (>1 MB) to test the implementation efficiency of namespace
binding(s) [recorded in
[34]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/06-i18nits-minutes.html#action01]
[End of minutes]
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