- From: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 10:10:16 +0900
- To: "public-i18n-its@w3.org" <public-i18n-its@w3.org>
Hi all, The minutes from yesterday's call are at http://www.w3.org/2005/10/26-i18n-minutes.html and as text in this mail. Best, Felix [1]W3C [1] http://www.w3.org/ I18N ITS WG 26 Oct 2005 [2]Agenda [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2005OctDec/0046.html See also: [3]IRC log [3] http://www.w3.org/2005/10/26-i18n-irc Attendees Present Andrzej, Christian, Diane, Damian, Felix, Goutam, Richard Regrets Sebastian, Yves Chair Felix Scribe Felix Contents * [4]Topics 1. [5]action items 2. [6]Title of the document 3. [7]General structure of the document 4. [8]On the notion of "data categories" (We still need a definition) 5. [9]What data categories should we concentrate on? 6. [10]Scheduling of publication of first wd / updated working draft or req document 7. [11]Other Business * [12]Summary of Action Items _________________________________________________________ action items <fsasaki> ACTION: FS to produce an odd for the scoping element, with the complete document structure (DONE) [recorded in [13]http://www.w3.org/2005/10/26-i18n-minutes.html#action01] <fsasaki> [14]http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/itstagset.odd [14] http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/itstagset.odd <fsasaki> [15]http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/itstagset.html [15] http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/itstagset.html <fsasaki> How to evoke the stylesheets (explanation will follow via mai): <fsasaki> java -cp "c:/saxon1-0/saxon.jar" "com.icl.saxon.StyleSheet" itstagset.odd odd2xmlspec.xsl > itstagset-xmlspec.xml <fsasaki> java -cp "c:/saxon/saxon8.jar" "net.sf.saxon.Transform" itstagset-xmlspec.xml ../../../xmlspec/002/xmlspec-i18n.xsl > itstagset.html <fsasaki> java -cp "c:/saxon1-0/saxon.jar" "com.icl.saxon.StyleSheet" -o its.dtd itstagset.odd [16]http://www.tei-c.org/release/xml/tei/stylesheet/odds/odd2dtd.xsl [16] http://www.tei-c.org/release/xml/tei/stylesheet/odds/odd2dtd.xsl <fsasaki> java -cp "c:/saxon1-0/saxon.jar" "com.icl.saxon.StyleSheet" -o its.rng itstagset.odd [17]http://www.tei-c.org/release/xml/tei/stylesheet/odds/odd2relax.x sl [17] http://www.tei-c.org/release/xml/tei/stylesheet/odds/odd2relax.xsl <fsasaki> java -jar "c:/Program Files/trang-20030619/trang.jar" its.rng its.rnc <fsasaki> java -jar "c:/Program Files/trang-20030619/trang.jar" -o disable-abstract-elements its.rng its.xsd <fsasaki> AZ: use of cdata: <fsasaki> <eg><![CDATA[<text its:translate="yes" its:translateScope="//p"> <fsasaki> <!-- all p elements should be translated --> <fsasaki> ... <fsasaki> <p its:translate="no" its:translateScope="."/> <fsasaki> </text> <fsasaki> ]]></eg> <fsasaki> AZ: stuff in cdata is hard to translate <fsasaki> ACTION: FS to put as many as possible requirements into the tag set working draft (pending) [recorded in [18]http://www.w3.org/2005/10/26-i18n-minutes.html#action02] <fsasaki> ACTION: CL to use ODD to specify the indicator of translatability req (pending) [recorded in [19]http://www.w3.org/2005/10/26-i18n-minutes.html#action03] <fsasaki> ACTION: FS to write a mail to the member list to explain odd and the stylesheets [recorded in [20]http://www.w3.org/2005/10/26-i18n-minutes.html#action04] <fsasaki> ACTION: Put extensibility in the WD in the way discussed in last teleconf (pending) [recorded in [21]http://www.w3.org/2005/10/26-i18n-minutes.html#action05] <fsasaki> ACTION: SR to put a comment into the nested element http://esw.w3.org/topic/its0509ReqNestedElements (pending) [recorded in [22]http://www.w3.org/2005/10/26-i18n-minutes.html#action06] <fsasaki> ACTION: YS to ask RI for techniques template. (pending) [recorded in [23]http://www.w3.org/2005/10/26-i18n-minutes.html#action07] Title of the document <fsasaki> "Implementation of Requirements for Internationalization and Localization" <fsasaki> CL: is what we are doing similar to Xlink? <fsasaki> FS: parts of it <fsasaki> FS: "A language for Internationalization and Localization" <chriLi> XML Standard Localization and Internationalization Markup (XSLIM) <fsasaki> Damien: CL title says more what the document is about <fsasaki> how about "XML Localization and Internationalization Markup Language"? General structure of the document <fsasaki> FS: what do you think about the general structure of the document? <fsasaki> CL: should we have an example for the problem we want to solve? <fsasaki> FS: how about the application scenarios section: [24]http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/itstagset.html#d2e 120 [24] http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/itstagset.html#d2e120 <fsasaki> FS: we could have an example for each application scenario <fsasaki> .. to cover all audiences <fsasaki> Damien: what limitations do we want to address? <fsasaki> FS: could be also in the application scenario section <fsasaki> .. or with a link to the requirements doc <fsasaki> Damien: would be fine with me <fsasaki> [25]http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/itstagset.html#d2e 210 [25] http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/itstagset.html#d2e210 <fsasaki> Damien: examples with the definitions improves readability; it also must be clear to separate them visually from the definitions <fsasaki> Damien: there is knowledge required what the limitations are which this document will address. At least pointer to a detailed description of the limitations <fsasaki> structure of data categories description: "data cat def" + "relation to scope" <fsasaki> FS: should scope and data cat be together or separate in the document, with links to each other? <fsasaki> CL: we should spell this out for an example and ask again <fsasaki> FS: on modularizations of ITS: should that be in the document? <fsasaki> .. see [26]http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/itstagset.html#d2e 814 [26] http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/itstagset.html#d2e814 <fsasaki> CL: we have to do a lobby work with the people on these standard committees <fsasaki> FS: so we could have such a section; we will see during the lobby work how it will be On the notion of "data categories" (We still need a definition) <fsasaki> FS: we have to work that out, but not today What data categories should we concentrate on? <fsasaki> FS: any preferences except translatability and ruby? <fsasaki> FS: could we just cut and paste the req from the working draft? <fsasaki> CL: we should go for the stuff which is in the DTD snippet from last call. <fsasaki>See [27]http://esw.w3.org/topic/its0509SpecScoping, sec. "Markup declaration for scope in instance documents" [27] http://esw.w3.org/topic/its0509SpecScoping <fsasaki> .. they should be in the first draft <fsasaki> Damian: Information about contextual information was not included in the DTD snippet, would be good to be in there <fsasaki> .. i.e. contextual information about translation <fsasaki> CL: we discussed translatability on this lines Scheduling of publication of first wd / updated working draft or req document <fsasaki> FS: I would like to put as many as possible req in the wd, discuss it next week, publish in two weeks <fsasaki> CL: I have not very much time until 8 November Other Business <fsasaki> No other business Summary of Action Items [DONE] ACTION: FS to produce an odd for the scoping element, with the complete [recorded in [28]http://www.w3.org/2005/10/26-i18n-minutes.html#action01] [NEW] ACTION: FS to write a mail to the member list to explain odd and the stylesheets [recorded in [29]http://www.w3.org/2005/10/26-i18n-minutes.html#action04] [PENDING] ACTION: CL to use ODD to specify the indicator of translatability req [recorded in [30]http://www.w3.org/2005/10/26-i18n-minutes.html#action03] [PENDING] ACTION: FS to put as many as possible requirements into the tag set working draft [recorded in [31]http://www.w3.org/2005/10/26-i18n-minutes.html#action02] [PENDING] ACTION: Put extensibility in the WD in the way discussed in last teleconf [recorded in [32]http://www.w3.org/2005/10/26-i18n-minutes.html#action05] [PENDING] ACTION: SR to put a comment into the nested element http://esw.w3.org/topic/its0509ReqNestedElements [recorded in [33]http://www.w3.org/2005/10/26-i18n-minutes.html#action06] [PENDING] ACTION: YS to ask RI for techniques template. [recorded in [34]http://www.w3.org/2005/10/26-i18n-minutes.html#action07] [End of minutes] _________________________________________________________ Minutes formatted by David Booth's [35]scribe.perl version 1.127 ([36]CVS log) $Date: 2005/10/27 01:08:49 $ [35] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm [36] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/
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