- From: r12a <ishida@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 09:38:59 +0100
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https://www.w3.org/2018/04/13-ilreq-minutes.html
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– DRAFT –
IIP telecon
13 April 2018
[2]IRC log
[2] https://www.w3.org/2018/04/13-ilreq-irc
Attendees
Present
Akshat, alolita, Muthu, neha, r12a, trackbot, vivek
Regrets
Chair
Alolita
Scribe
r12a
Contents
* [3]Meeting Minutes
1. [4]InfoShare
2. [5]Logistics
3. [6]Work on 3 initial scripts
* [7]Summary of Action Items
Meeting Minutes
InfoShare
<alolita> akshat: I'm Akshat Joshi I work at CDAC with Mahesh
Kulkarni Some of the major work I've been working on is
internationalization of domain names
<alolita> ... happy to be on this taskforce
<alolita> muthu: I'm Muthu Neduraman from Malaysia working on
fonts for Indo-Chinese and Indic languages
<alolita> ... does Indo-Chinese include Tibetan
<alolita> ... do you know Javanese - No
<alolita> r12a: I'm Richard Ishida, W3C lead and particularly
interested in typography outside the realm of fonts
<alolita> ... we will be involved in developing some of that
information
<alolita> Neha: I'm Neha Gupta working at CDAC on NLP projects,
keyboards for Indian languages, IDN
<alolita> ... Happy to be involved with this effort
<alolita> Vivek: I'm Vivek Pani working with
internationalization and am getting involved with
standardization again
<alolita> ... I'm interested in looking at font standardization
alolita: Involved in language tech for some years now - happy
to see start of this work around indian languages
… v happy to have a diverse group here
… missing Anshu and Kalika
… I work on NLP and machines learning at Amazon
Logistics
[8]https://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/guidelines/process.html
[8] https://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/guidelines/process.html
<alolita> r12a: We've been walking through the processes in the
meeting which have developed over several years
<alolita> ... these tools have been used and let's learn these
tools and processes to be effective
<alolita> ... does anyone have any questions
<alolita> ... i imagine the questions will come up as we make
progress
Work on 3 initial scripts
Objective: discuss best ways to focus as a team to work on the
first 3 language scripts - Devanagari, Tamil and Bengali. A
transparent, iterative approach will all work done by the team
hosted on GitHub would be ideal.
Requirements document template
[9]https://w3c.github.io/iip/templates/lreq_doc/
[9] https://w3c.github.io/iip/templates/lreq_doc/
Gap analysis template
[10]https://w3c.github.io/iip/templates/gap-analysis
[10] https://w3c.github.io/iip/templates/gap-analysis
scribenick r12a
r12a: in the language matrix there are some typographic
features on top - down the left hand side the scripts are
ordered alphabetically by number of speakers is a list of
languages
... does the web work for that feature where are the gaps -
where are the pain points
... provide tests and pictures to provide where those parts
are broken
... In addition to that document (gap-analysis) we have the
layout requirements doc e.g. if grapheme clusters are
broken then outline gap in gap analysis doc and then add
requirements as to how they should work in the Devanagari
Layout requirements document
... How should it work neutrally
... the reqs doc should serve as a long-term reference
... IIP will develop new docs which will replace the old
existing ilreq doc We should use the old doc as a source
where it has useful information but will create a new
document
akshat: wr the color convention, sometimes it was tough to
take a call
... on syllable clusters is it a Unicode text segmentation
is the text segmentation rule broken keep in mind:
r12a: does the web work for a user
... In the Gap analysis doc we are looking to see if it is
being described look at HTML and CSS specifications - verifying
in the browser specs are the implementations out of sync in
other cases - implementations may not be handling it the same
way
alolita: Propose focus on deva, beng and taml at the start
… cdac has been working on gap analysis for other languages
… akshat & neha what are your thoughts on other languages?
akshat: initially planned 5 scripts, including guju and guru
… we have covered 3 scripts - currently working on 2 more
… the gap analysis doc has many different aspects - 20% of the
subsections are still tbd
… we might need more perspective on how to flag issues
… looking for more advice from r12a to guide future working
neha: maybe by next week we'll have gap analysis docs for Tamil
and XXX
alolita: we're leveraging some of the work that CDAC has
already done
… you have seen the links to these documents
[11]http://w3c.github.io/typography/gap-analysis/
language-matrix.html
[11] http://w3c.github.io/typography/gap-analysis/language-matrix.html
alolita: the idea was use that as a framework
[12]https://w3c.github.io/iip/gap-analysis/deva-gap
[12] https://w3c.github.io/iip/gap-analysis/deva-gap
alolita: what documents should we work on? should we work in
parallel?
muthu: let's see what's available already, and fill that in
first
… then in meetings we can look at additional features and
decide how to work
… i think we can look at all three scripts for what has been
done up to now
… then after that decide whether to work script by script
akshat: best to work on all three at same time - because other
scripts can bring in perspectives that devanagari is missing
vivek: if we all know devanagari it might be good to focus on
that
neha: i agree with akshat
alolita: listening to this, i like Muthu's idea of reviewing
exising information across all 3 scripts
… then decide about how to move forward
… we can always tune the process based on what will work for
all of us
Alolita: please everyone look at the documents that exist
… and review before we next meet
… also i'm thinking of a biweekly call to discuss docs and
manage the work
… does that workf or everyone
all agree
Alolita: re: Time for call bi-weekly to accommodate others
like Anshu
Muthu: flexible, in malaysia we work around the clock
Neha: 730am-7pm morning is ok, but not after 7pm
r12a: 6.30am ok
<Akshat> maybe i am not audible
<Akshat> i am ok with anything that works for majority
Action: Alolita to send out doodle poll for regular meeting
times
alolita: Please all look at the repo
[13]https://github.com/w3c/iip/
[13] https://github.com/w3c/iip/
<Akshat> My audio dropped off... trying to connect...
Action: Alolita to send out doodle poll for regular meeting
times
<trackbot> Created ACTION-4 - Send out doodle poll for regular
meeting times [on Alolita Sharma - due 2018-04-20].
Summary of Action Items
1. [14]Alolita to send out doodle poll for regular meeting
times
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