RE: XHTML 2.0 review

They do already allow markup in the title element (as a result of a previous
request we made).  The question is whether that markup will be respected in
the window title bar. Not a foregone conclusion.

They also removed most of the places where there would be text in attributes
- esp. alt text.  Though we still need to work on them for title attribute
text - and get them to specify that where user agents display such text
outside of the main text window, eg. as tooltips, they properly represent
the bidi (and other markup).

RI

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Duerst [mailto:duerst@w3.org] 
> Sent: 04 November 2004 01:04
> To: Najib Tounsi; Richard Ishida
> Cc: i18n IG; GEO
> Subject: Re: XHTML 2.0 review
> 
> At 23:55 04/11/03, Najib Tounsi wrote:
>  >
>  >
>  >About the review, why not to seize this opportunity to 
> mention the problem of bidi texts in the title elements [1] 
> (as well as for title or alt attributes)?
>  >To display correctly in browsers, bidi texts, i.e. ar/he 
> mixed with latin, might be surrounded by the pair of Unicode  
> control characters 
> U+202B (RLE) and U+202C (PDF)  to force the RTL 
> directionnality to apply
> for titles. The corresponding XHTML entities are &x202B; and 
> &x2020C;  >Could we suggest to XHTML2.0 to add this, for 
> example as a trick, to avoid the problem?
> 
> I think it is much better to get them to allow markup in the 
> <title> element. Maybe that's already the case, because they 
> should know about this problem. It would make things easier 
> for authors,..., because that way, they can use the same 
> mechanism, designed for (X)HTML, everywhere.
> 
> Najib, what do you think?
> 
> Regards,    Martin.
> 
>  >BTW, the example in "15.1.3. 15.1.1. Inheritance of text 
> direction information" [2] says:
>  >
>  ><html dir="rtl">
>  ><head>
>  ><title>/...a right-to-left title.../</title>         (*)
>  ></head>
>  >/...right-to-left text...                           (**/)
>  ><p dir="ltr">/...left-to-right text.../</p>  
> ><p>/...right-to-left text again.../</p>  ></html>  >  >The 
> "right-to-left-ness" in (*) is not always the same as in (**) 
>  >  >Regards,  >  >Najib  >  >  >[1] 
> http://www.w3.org/International/tests/sec-bidi-misc-1
>  >[2] 
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/WD-xhtml2-20040722/mod-bidi.html#sec_15.1.1.
>  >
>  >
>  >Richard Ishida wrote:
>  >
>  >>I have created a new table containing the points we will 
> put forward as a group, edited to reflect our discussions 
> during the telecon (as far as point 21). See 
> http://www.w3.org/International/2004/10/xhtml2-i18n-review
>  >>
>  >>RI
>  >>
>  >>
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