RE: Q&A -- sorting

Hi Russ,

Thanks for getting this back out so quickly.  I'd like to suggest one
small tweak:

> developer-designed process (like using XML and XSLT).

You can run XSLT on the HTML itself, you don't need the data to be in
XML, so to avoid making things sound to difficult we could just say

"developer-designed process (like using an XSLT transform)."

Hth,
RI

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Russ Rolfe [mailto:rrolfe@windows.microsoft.com] 
> Sent: 07 May 2003 21:04
> To: ishida@w3.org; public-i18n-geo@w3.org
> Subject: Q&A -- sorting
> 
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> Thank-you for the input.  Please let me know if you have any 
> suggestions, deletions or additions.
> 
> Regards, Russ
> 
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> 
> Question:
> 
> As part of a form, I have a list of terms in a drop-down box. 
>  Why are they not correctly sorted when I translate the items 
> in the list? 
> 
> Answer:
> 
> Although many programming languages have devices like 
> drop-down boxes that have the capability of sorting a list of 
> items before displaying them as part of their functionality, 
> the HTML <select> function has no such capabilities.  It 
> lists the <options> in the order received.  Thus one must 
> pre-sort their translated options before presenting them to 
> the client.  This is either done manually or by using some 
> developer-designed process (like using XML and XSLT).
> 
> For example, lets say we have a pull-down list for types of 
> pets.  In the list, we have the following in alphabetical order:
> 
> <form .....>
>     <select size="1" name="pet">
>        <option value='cat'> cat </option>
>        <option value='dog'> dog </option>
>        <option value='mouse'> mouse </option>
>     </select>
> ...
> ...
> </form>
> 
> When this is translated to Dutch, the list becomes
> 
> <form .....>
>     <select size="1" name="pet">
>        <option value='cat'> kat </option>
>        <option value='dog'> hond </option>
>        <option value='mouse'> muis </option>
>     </select>
> ...
> ...
> </form>
> 
> But for it to be in correct Dutch alphabetical order we will need to 
> re-arrange the list to:
> 
> <form .....>
>     <select size="1" name="pet">
>        <option value='dog'> hond</option>
>        <option value='cat'> kat </option>
>        <option value='mouse'> muis </option>
>     </select>
> ...
> ...
> </form>
> 
> This must be done for each language to be displayed.
> 
> Note that the value parameters are not translated in the 
> examples above.  This separation of material to be displayed 
> to the user and data to be processed at the back-end, allows 
> the developer to keep the back-end processing the same.  
> Meaning they do not have to change what they expect to 
> receive from the user every time support for a new language is added.
> 
> 
>

Received on Thursday, 8 May 2003 01:39:29 UTC