- From: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 12:43:45 +0100
- To: <public-i18n-geo@w3.org>
MINUTES W3C I18n GEO Phone Conference 9 April 2003 Present: Richard (chair, scribe), Tex, Russ, Andrew, Phil, Martin, Suzanne Regrets: Steve New Actions ============ ACTION: RI, set up Phil and Suzanne as Invited Experts ACTION: RI, check on implementation status of OBJECT tag with Steven Prior Action Items ============== ACTION: RI, apply agreed changes to FTF minutes and publish. DONE ACTION: AC to create a list of possibilities for 'non-displayable' characters Done but needs posting to list ACTION: Lloyd,send a list of deprecated tags in HTML by next meeting ACTION: Russ, follow-up wrt possible new member from Trados Discussion has taken place - Trados are trying to locate an appropriate person Action: Richard, look at ways of making the document print with a smaller font, while avoiding any WAI issues. All: send in pointers to existing guidelines Suzanne: put together a list of short term vs. long term goals related to education and outreach - send it to us for discussion DONE Dependencies =========== None. Review of recent activity =================== WCAG Techniques group asked that we look at the internationalization issues surrounding the use of the OBJECT tag in HTML. Notes from the discussion: Beware of using things like charset or hreflang attributes, if appropriate, since they may not be updated if the target entity is text-based and changes. Need to clarify whether we should recommend the use of OBJECT vs. other tags like APPLET. If the entity pointed to is text, how does transcoding happen if it is needed? We probably need to address different issues according to the usage of the OBJECT tag. WCAG is also looking at developing test suites. There was brief discussion about whether we should do the same. Tex, Russ and Andrew promised some material for the near future. Education & Outreach Discussion ========================= Suzanne went through the page she sent to the list and we discussed the ideas and brainstormed additional topics. Notes follow: Contributions to university courses: People might not want to participate because of ownership issues & competition Need statement in the proposal that university can benefit from this RR would universities see this as too small a niche TT need to make the case TT a workshop might be useful to solicit information - and involve people flesh out structure with an idea of workshop list contents of such a syllabus get people to develop it RI university courses need a lot of intellectual capital which we don't currently have other alternative approaches - eg. Making things available on web like WAI TT suggests a brokering activity could develop syllabus ask them what they are trying to accomplish ST look for other opportunities to speak to non i18n people PA need info on ROI need financials TT MLC would be willing to post status updates Martin wrote an article TT touch base with research analysts dealing with i18n we are a resource when they need comments on a topical issue - make the experts available could suggest we do something with the IUC RI We need a problem statement for the E&O document to indicate what we want to achieve & help us prioritise PA visitors to w3c site take too long to find what they wanted quick code or checklist would be useful also could be more attractive - w3c is conservative this is a large audience - e-developers this is particularly the case for e-developers ST invite other sites to get information from W3C PA these sites accept guest authors RI do want to pull? PA run a survey past a demographic group what tools, sites do you use? What do you need? PA create a community around i18n issues RR how do other groups pull these communities together? language institute, client side news, i18n gurus how do we make ourselves more successful? AC a lot of people don't want to be subject to an involved process they need to find information quickly we need to make information available ST so many things to look at these days MD need to choose just a couple of things to do RI We should also publicise better what we're already doing talks: Unicode, WWW papers: Martin's article in Multilingual Computing, Richard's (upcoming) in RWS newsletter we could look at providing an RS Feed add things to website news section perhaps have a new pages/documents section in addition to the new events possibly a list of topics under discussion in the mail list/telecons we should also announce new documents in MLC we should revamp the hints & tips section of the site (and the look & feel of the site itself) and raise its visibility we could also look for outlets for knowledge in form of short articles like the one on charset declarations produced by the webstandards org http://www.webstandards.org/learn/askw3c/dec2002.html other how to pages offer to review articles for people (in return for a mention) Next meeting: ========== Same time, same bridge, next week.
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