Re: In Development: Pages to Describe Zaima Chant Requirements

Martin & Elias,

Thank you for the remarks.  Regarding informing other parties within the
W3C, I'm really not sure where to start when I look over the many, many
email lists.  Some that look like good candidates are:

  www-style, w3c-css-wg, public-html, www-internationalization

Should I send a note to some or all of the above, any others?  Are there
any recommended additions or modifications to the pages that should be made
before alerting other groups to them?

thank you,

-Daniel




On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 12:01 AM Wondimu, Elias <Elias.Wondimu@lmu.edu>
wrote:

> Martin,
>
> Thank you for sharing this note. What Daniel is doing for Ethiopic
> writings is very important and please help us spread this with in the HTML
> and CSS WGs community. Let me know if I can assist you from my end.
>
> Thanks,
> Elias
>
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> From: Martin J. Dürst [duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp]
> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2017 8:38 PM
> To: Daniel Yacob; public-i18n-ethiopic@w3.org
> Subject: Re: In Development: Pages to Describe Zaima Chant Requirements
>
> Hello Daniel,
>
> I have had a short look at your pages, and am very impressed with your
> work. We should make sure that people e.g. in the HTML and CSS WGs are
> aware of this.
>
> Regards,    Martin.
>
> On 2017/11/02 11:19, Daniel Yacob wrote:
> > Greetings All,
> >
> > I had some inspiration recently that many of the challenges of presenting
> > Zaima chant notation could be handled by layered Ruby markup where the
> > notation text is elevated in successive layers.  In effect, treating
> Zaima
> > as a three dimensional document projected onto a surface.  It worked out
> > pretty well.  It seems with CSS and JavaScript almost anything is
> possible
> > these days.
> >
> > While the experiment worked, the approach is akin to a "slight of hand"
> > that was very sensitive to browser versions and had no guarantee of
> working
> > long term.  Case in point, when my browser updated (Chrome v60 to v61),
> it
> > all fell apart and I had to start over.  In some respects presentation
> > capability was lost under the upgrade.
> >
> > The exercise did allow me to think about the broader problem of
> supporting
> > the Ge'ez hymnody, beyond just the interlinear notation. Broader still,
> to
> > consider HTML support of chant traditions that rely on staffless
> notation.
> > I am lead to conclude that the W3C would serve a broad, multi-national
> and
> > multilingual community if it took on the problem of addressing
> interlinear
> > layout more robustly by considering the use cases from chant literature.
> >
> > Presentation experiments, use cases, and thoughts on a document model
> > (general chant and zaima specific extensions) are presented here:
> >
> >    http://w3c.github.io/elreq/zaima/
> >
> > I have mostly tested the pages in Chrome 61 and Safari 11 which do pretty
> > well, your browser window will need to be opened wide for most pages if
> not
> > full screen.  The documents change almost daily, but are stable for the
> > most part now.
> >
> > There is a lot that can be said about the various aspects of the
> > experiments and where they could lead, and many questions raised in need
> of
> > expert input, but I'll stop for now.  In short, I plan to continue
> refining
> > the zaima document model and hope to take up the general problem of
> > interlinear text layout with interested groups at the W3C.  Any input is
> > welcomed.
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > -Daniel
>
>