RE: process question and query about ISSUE-88

One further thought, if you think a phone call would help to explain the HTML WG processes please just let me know.

/paulc

Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3
Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Cotton 
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 9:33 AM
To: 'Richard Ishida'; Phillips, Addison
Cc: public-i18n-core@w3.org; Sam Ruby (rubys@intertwingly.net); Maciej Stachowiak (mjs@apple.com); Michael(tm) Smith (mike@w3.org)
Subject: RE: process question and query about ISSUE-88

> Aharon didn't really understood what he had to do here, and Addison and I weren't able to understand it either.

The HTML WG Chairs sent the following email on Sep 7, 2010 that outlined a plan for how the WG was going to get to Last Call:

Timeline to Last Call
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Sep/0074.html 

> Reminder: - Jan 22, 2010 is the cutoff for escalating bugs for pre-LC consideration - all issues in tracker, calls for proposal issued by this date.
>Consequences of missing this date: any further escalations will be treated as a Last Call comment.

If you review the message above it explains in detail what Sam was trying to explain.  Basically in your case if you disagreed with the disposition of any of your bugs that were filed before Oct 1, you had until Jan 22 to request that they be escalated into WG Tracker issues.  

Please let me know if you understand the situations after reviewing the above message and this email.

/paulc
 
Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3
Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329


-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Ishida [mailto:ishida@w3.org]
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 3:36 AM
To: Phillips, Addison
Cc: Paul Cotton; public-i18n-core@w3.org; Sam Ruby (rubys@intertwingly.net); Maciej Stachowiak (mjs@apple.com); Michael(tm) Smith (mike@w3.org)
Subject: Re: process question and query about ISSUE-88

I think one specific question was, what does this mean:

"--- Comment #57 from Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net> 2011-01-17
21:54:41 UTC ---
Reminder: - Jan 22, 2010 is the cutoff for escalating bugs for pre-LC consideration - all issues in tracker, calls for proposal issued by this date.
Consequences of missing this date: any further escalations will be treated as a Last Call comment.
"

Aharon didn't really understood what he had to do here, and Addison and I weren't able to understand it either.

RI

Richard Ishida
Internationalization Activity Lead
W3C (World Wide Web Consortium)

http://www.w3.org/International/

http://rishida.net/


On 10/02/2011 06:11, Phillips, Addison wrote:
> Hello Paul,
>
> Thanks for the response. Our list of re-opened bugs is scattered across a couple of teleconferences. We'll pull the list together for you. It isn't a long list.
>
> I am not sure that our intention was to escalate them to WG issues, at least, not in all cases. Our goal was to decide whether your WG's or editor's proposed resolution satisfied us. I'm not sure that any issues require resolution before LC, assuming that LC issues will be dealt with on an equal footing. Nonetheless, I will check with the WG membership before committing to any particular resolution.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Addison
>
> Addison Phillips
> Globalization Architect (Lab126)
> Chair (W3C I18N, IETF IRI WGs)
>
> Internationalization is not a feature.
> It is an architecture.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Paul Cotton [mailto:Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 8:53 PM
>> To: Phillips, Addison
>> Cc: public-i18n-core@w3.org; Sam Ruby (rubys@intertwingly.net); 
>> Maciej Stachowiak (mjs@apple.com); Michael(tm) Smith (mike@w3.org)
>> Subject: RE: process question and query about ISSUE-88
>>
>>> Recently (a few weeks ago, actually), our WG reopened a few bugs
>> filed before your cutoff date. We would like to know how these will 
>> be handled, etc. That is: what is your process for clearing our open 
>> bugs?
>>
>> Can you help us here by explicitly listing the bugs you re-opened?
>>
>> Please note that the Jan 22 deadline was for the escalation of bugs 
>> into WG issues.  See:
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Sep/0074.html

>>
>>> - Jan 22, 2010 - cutoff for escalating bugs for pre-LC
>> consideration - all issues in tracker, calls for proposal issued by 
>> this date
>>> Consequences of missing this date: any further escalations will
>> be treated as a Last Call comment.
>>
>> Was your intent to convert the re-opened bugs in WG Issues to ensure 
>> they were handled before Last Call?
>>
>> /paulc
>>
>> Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
>> 17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3
>> Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Phillips, Addison [mailto:addison@lab126.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 11:48 AM
>> To: Paul Cotton; Sam Ruby (rubys@intertwingly.net); Maciej Stachowiak 
>> (mjs@apple.com); Michael(tm) Smith (mike@w3.org)
>> Cc: public-i18n-core@w3.org
>> Subject: process question and query about ISSUE-88
>>
>> Dear HTML5 WG chairs,
>>
>> I have been tasked [1][2] by the Internationalization WG with 
>> touching base with you about two topics.
>>
>> 1. Recently (a few weeks ago, actually), our WG reopened a few bugs 
>> filed before your cutoff date. We would like to know how these will 
>> be handled, etc. That is: what is your process for clearing our open 
>> bugs?
>>
>> 2. We noticed also that ISSUE-88 seems to have gone dormant and are 
>> wondering about the status of this issue. There is no recent update 
>> on http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html. Is any progress 
>> being made there.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Addison
>>
>> [1] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/16 ACTION-16 [2]
>> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/19 ACTION-19
>>
>> Addison Phillips
>> Globalization Architect (Lab126)
>> Chair (W3C I18N, IETF IRI WGs)
>>
>> Internationalization is not a feature.
>> It is an architecture.
>>
>>
>
>
>

Received on Tuesday, 15 February 2011 16:05:50 UTC