[I18N Core] Teleconference Minutes 2007-01-30

... are at http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html and below
as text.

Felix

   [1]W3C

      [1] http://www.w3.org/

                             i18n core WG

30 Jan 2007

   [2]Agenda

      [2]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Jan/0022.html

   See also: [3]IRC log

      [3] http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-irc

Attendees

   Present
          Felix, Ienup, Michael, Richard

   Regrets
          Francois

   Chair
          Felix

   Scribe
          Felix

Contents

     * [4]Topics
         1. [5]last minutes
         2. [6]Action items
         3. [7]Charmod C064 considered unclear
         4. [8]xml:base
         5. [9]PLS 1.0 review
         6. [10]IDN "does it work?" document
         7. [11]CSS 2.1 review
         8. [12]LC reviews
         9. [13]LTLI update
        10. [14]XQuery full text review - udpate?
        11. [15]activity renewal
        12. [16]trip report from Richard
        13. [17]AOB
     * [18]Summary of Action Items
     _________________________________________________________

last minutes

   [19]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/23-i18ncore-minutes.html

     [19] http://www.w3.org/2007/01/23-i18ncore-minutes.html

   minutes approved

Action items

   <scribe> ACTION: Felix to bring i18n core comments to data binding
   WG (DONE) [recorded in
   [20]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html#action01]

   [21]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2007JanMar/
   0031.html

     [21]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2007JanMar/0031.html

   <scribe> ACTION: Felix to go back to VBWG asking about our CCXML
   comments (DONE) [recorded in
   [22]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html#action02]

   <scribe> ACTION: Felix to go back to XML core with our comments on
   c14n 1.1. (DROPPED) [recorded in
   [23]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html#action03]

   <scribe> ACTION: Francois to draft s.t. for a note about C064 / C065
   (PENDING) [recorded in
   [24]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html#action04]

   <scribe> ACTION: Ienup to go to the Unicode UTC and check the
   stability of the "latest version" URI for referencing Unicode
   (ONGOING) [recorded in
   [25]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html#action05]

   Ienup: yesterday I sent a mail saying that I'm talking to Mark
   ... Mark said they have a URL we can use, so I'd recommend the URL
   and close the AI

   [26]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Jan/002
   3.html

     [26]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Jan/0023.html

   Felix: Agree with closing the AI but keeping track of the URI
   described in
   [27]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Jan/002
   3.html , we might need it for an update of C064 / C065

     [27]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Jan/0023.html

   <scribe> ACTION: all to give feedback on LTLI update (PENDING)
   [recorded in
   [28]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html#action06]

   <scribe> ACTION: Felix to write a mail about possibility for SVG
   tiny specific IRI tests to martin and the i18n core list (PENDING)
   [recorded in
   [29]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html#action07]

   <scribe> ACTION: Francois to build a current issues list on charmod
   norm (PENDING) [recorded in
   [30]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html#action08]

   <scribe> ACTION: Francois to have a look at issue 3698 and gather
   information onoptions for diacrictics in collations (PENDING)
   [recorded in
   [31]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html#action09]

   <scribe> ACTION: Francois to reread Martins mail and to write a
   reply to him (PENDING [recorded in
   [32]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html#action10]

   the mail was about the proposed edited recommendation request of
   xml:base,

   see
   [33]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Dec/001
   4.html )

     [33]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Dec/0014.html

Charmod C064 considered unclear

   <scribe> postponed until next week

xml:base

   Felix: I'll ping Francois later to see if he can follow up on this
   before 31 January

PLS 1.0 review

   Richard: I'll look at it after the meeting

IDN "does it work?" document

   [34]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2007JanMar/
   0027.html

     [34]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2007JanMar/0027.html

   [35]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2007JanMar/
   att-0027/idn.html__charset_UTF-8

     [35]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2007JanMar/att-0027/idn.html__charset_UTF-8

   <Mick>
   [36]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2007JanMar/
   0032.html

     [36]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2007JanMar/0032.html

   Michael: I made an update since that

   [37]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2007JanMar/
   att-0032/idnv2.html__charset_UTF-8

     [37]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2007JanMar/att-0032/idnv2.html__charset_UTF-8

   Richard: looks good, did not have a chance to look at it yet in
   detail

   Michael: Mark said IE looks a little bit more elegant than other
   solutions
   ... should we give time to review this?

   Richard: this is an replacement for a section in an existing
   article, right?

   Michael: yes

   Richard: I'll also send this to the GEO WG

   <scribe> ACTION: Richard to send the "IDN does it work?" document to
   GEO [recorded in
   [38]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html#action11]

   Ienup: I can also send the document to various people

   Richard: the document is quite long and a bit complex
   ... the GEO documents are sent out for review on the
   www-international list
   ... might also be good to do this here

   Ienup: good idea

   Michael: I'll make some formatting changes and condense the
   document, before distributing it
   ... the explanation of how some browsers act is covered in some
   "mouse over" information which is bad since you can't print that
   ... I'll reformat that before I'll distribute
   ... after that I'll send it to www-international?

   Richard: contact me as you are ready. We might want to integrate it
   into the original article, after that we send it to
   www-international

   Michael: ok, I'll contact you first

CSS 2.1 review

   Richard: I'll send the mail about the BDO stuff, I'll try to do that
   this week
   ... if you get a chance to read it, it's fine. CSS 2.1 is far
   advanced

   Felix: ok, let's do it like that

LC reviews

   [39]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Jan/002
   0.html

     [39]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Jan/0020.html

   [40]http://www.w3.org/TR/mobileOK-basic10-tests/

     [40] http://www.w3.org/TR/mobileOK-basic10-tests/

   Felix: any volunteers?

   Richard: character encoding support is important in the draft for us

   [41]http://www.w3.org/TR/mobile-bp/#CHARACTER_ENCODING_USE

     [41] http://www.w3.org/TR/mobile-bp/#CHARACTER_ENCODING_USE

   Richard: can't see a lot other issues

   <scribe> ACTION: Felix to add mobileOK to LC radar [recorded in
   [42]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html#action12]

LTLI update

   <scribe> postponed

XQuery full text review - udpate?

   <scribe> postponed

activity renewal

   Richard: form for renewal is out until 7th February
   ... positive responses so far, one suggestion about MathML, except
   that not much to report
   ... after activity renewal, everybody has to rejoin the WGs, so
   you'll have to talk to your AC reps for that
   ... we also have to make a recruitment plan for i18n , if you have
   any ideas, please let us know

   Michael: how many people are necessary?

   Richard: the more the better. Some people don't attend meetings, but
   contribute in other ways

trip report from Richard

   Richard: went to conference organized by Pan localization project
   ... they are working with people developing standards for keyboards
   etc
   ... they train a smaller group of people in each country to become
   i18n / l10n engineers
   ... last week they had a meeting in Bhutan
   ... brought people from 16 countries together
   ... they will do a survey starting from the conference

   <r12a> [43]http://www.panl10n.net/english/Survey.htm

     [43] http://www.panl10n.net/english/Survey.htm

   Richard: above is a previous survey they did
   ... also in the workshop they put together some policy statements
   ... there was also a presentation by Ram Noham (scribe not sure
   about spelling)
   ... specialist in IDNs
   ... I represented W3C and explained what we do

   <r12a> [44]http://www.panl10n.net/english/Program20.htm

     [44] http://www.panl10n.net/english/Program20.htm

   Michael: how long has the pan localization been around?

   Richard: I think 3 years
   ... they recently launched Linux for Tibetanian and other languages
   ... the link above leads to the HP which has more info

   <r12a> [45]http://people.w3.org/rishida/blog/

     [45] http://people.w3.org/rishida/blog/

   Felix: any potential members?

   Richard: not sure, the people might not join themselves, but spread
   the news in their country
   ... went back via India, people are still very interested in i18n
   ... they are interested in CSS support for lists using Indian
   numbers

   Felix: would be great to have a requirements document (or several)
   for India or other Asian countries about their layout requirements

   Richard: maybe a bit early (they are still in an early stage of
   discussion), maybe we can look into this later this year

AOB

   meeting adjourned

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: Felix to add mobileOK to LC radar [recorded in
   [46]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html#action12]
   [NEW] ACTION: Richard to send the "IDN does it work?" document to
   GEO [recorded in
   [47]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html#action11]

   [PENDING] ACTION: all to give feedback on LTLI update [recorded in
   [48]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html#action06]
   [PENDING] ACTION: Felix to write a mail about possibility for SVG
   tiny specific IRI tests to martin and the i18n core list [recorded
   in [49]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html#action07]
   [PENDING] ACTION: Francois to build a current issues list on charmod
   norm [recorded in
   [50]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html#action08]
   [PENDING] ACTION: Francois to draft s.t. for a note about C064 /
   C065 [recorded in
   [51]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html#action04]
   [PENDING] ACTION: Francois to have a look at issue 3698 and gather
   information onoptions for diacrictics in collations [recorded in
   [52]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html#action09]
   [PENDING] ACTION: Francois to reread Martins mail and to write a
   reply to him [recorded in
   [53]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html#action10]
   [PENDING] ACTION: Ienup to go to the Unicode UTC and check the
   stability of the "latest version" URI for referencing Unicode
   [recorded in
   [54]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html#action05]

   [DONE] ACTION: Felix to bring i18n core comments to data binding WG
   [recorded in
   [55]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html#action01]
   [DONE] ACTION: Felix to go back to VBWG asking about our CCXML
   comments [recorded in
   [56]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html#action02]

   [DROPPED] ACTION: Felix to go back to XML core with our comments on
   c14n 1.1. [recorded in
   [57]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/30-i18ncore-minutes.html#action03]

   [End of minutes]
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