- From: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 18:07:39 +0100
- To: <public-i18n-core@w3.org>
http://www.w3.org/2007/06/05-core-minutes.html Text extract follows; I18n Core telecon 5 Jun 2007 See also: [2]IRC log [2] http://www.w3.org/2007/06/05-core-irc Attendees Present Greg_Aaron, Michael_Monaghan, Richard, Felix, David, Addison_Phillips, Najib Tounsi (on IRC) Regrets Chair Richard Ishida Scribe Michael Contents * [3]Topics 1. [4]Agenda & actions review 2. [5]Info Share 3. [6]Internationalization Best Practices: Handling Right-to-left Scripts in XHTML and HTML Content 4. [7]WCAG responses to our review comments 5. [8]XML Schema and empty language values 6. [9]XQuery full text working drafts * [10]Summary of Action Items _________________________________________________________ Agenda & actions review <r007a> [11]http://esw.w3.org/topic/coreHomework [11] http://esw.w3.org/topic/coreHomework <r007a> ACTION: Andrew, send proposals to list for changes to What should I consider wrt moving to UTF-8? [12]http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-utf8-upgrade.en.php [recorded in [13]http://www.w3.org/2007/05/29-core-minutes.html#action03] PENDING [12] http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-utf8-upgrade.en.php [13] http://www.w3.org/2007/05/29-core-minutes.html#action03 <r007a> ACTION: Andrew, read comments for What should I consider wrt moving to UTF-8? [14]http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-utf8-upgrade.en.php and seek resolutions and propose necessary edits [recorded in [15]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-core-minutes.html#action11] DONE [14] http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-utf8-upgrade.en.php [15] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-core-minutes.html#action11 <r007a> ACTION: David to sent a mail to CSS about the CSS 2.1 issue related to Unicode references [recorded in [16]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-core-minutes.html#action09] DONE [16] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-core-minutes.html#action09 <r007a> ACTION: Felix, send private email to XML SChema to discuss point 2 in [17]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Mar/003 0.html and look at creating a page describing the proposal later [recorded in [18]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-core-minutes.html#action12] PENDING [17] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Mar/0030.html [18] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-core-minutes.html#action12 <r007a> paper written, but can't yet make public <r007a> ACTION: David, redraft What is encoding, and why should I care? [19]http://esw.w3.org/topic/geoEncoding for 1st May recorded in [20]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-core-minutes.html#action02] PENDING [19] http://esw.w3.org/topic/geoEncoding [20] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-core-minutes.html#action02 <r007a> ACTION: RI, publish What should I consider wrt moving to UTF-8? [21]http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-utf8-upgrade.html [recorded in [22]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-core-minutes.html#action11] PENDING [21] http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-utf8-upgrade.html [22] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-core-minutes.html#action11 <r007a> ACTION: Richard to follow up on "SVG WG comments on the 06 Nov CSS21 WD - issue 6" topic [recorded in [23]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-core-minutes.html#action08] PENDING [23] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-core-minutes.html#action08 Info Share RI spoke at @media conf last week - good exposure for i18n, very well received Greg: i18n domain names topic for discussion in Puerto Rico next week @ ICANN conf <r007a> ACTION: Greg, send out summary of issues and ideas surrounding TLD IDNs coming up for ICANN discussion [recorded in [24]http://www.w3.org/2007/06/05-core-minutes.html#action08] Internationalization Best Practices: Handling Right-to-left Scripts in XHTML and HTML Content <r007a> [25]http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-i18n-html-tech-bidi-20070606/ [25] http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-i18n-html-tech-bidi-20070606/ <r007a> Ok to publish interim update draft tomorrow? much progress on this doc <r007a> Agreed: publish Internationalization Best Practices: Handling Right-to-left Scripts in XHTML and HTML Content tomorrow <najib> +1 <r007a> thanks najib <najib> May be add meaningful Arabic words where necessary in the examples <najib> I can provide. <r007a> ok, najib, we can do that later as this is just an interim publication <r007a> thanks WCAG responses to our review comments <r007a> [26]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2007AprJun/ 0072.html [26] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2007AprJun/0072.html <r007a> [27]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2007AprJun/ 0074.html [27] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2007AprJun/0074.html <r007a> Can we agree to send the responses outlined by Richard? Suggestion: doc needs to be more readable; better sign-posting RI will send the 'readability' comment on behalf of i18n group David: suggest that they look at the 'Simplified English' standard. Need plain English. Comment 2 ok comment 3 - typo comment 4 - Dublin Core no longer an issue. offending text removed comment 5 suggestion to WG was followed Comment 6 -Links to Liam Quinn's docs - ok. Links removed. Docs were out of date. Comment 7 suggestion followed. OK Comment 8 - markup issue suggestion followed. OK Comment 9- xml:lang missing suggestion followed. OK Comment 10 - suggestion followed. OK Comment 11 - editorial thing on Ja example fixed. OK Comment 12 to do with directional attributes. RI said not an accessibility issue. References removed except in some understandable instances Comment 13 - use of 'primary language' Comment 14 - using html lang attribute RI will send all above comments to WG [28]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2007AprJun/ 0074.html [28] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2007AprJun/0074.html <r007a> [29]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2007AprJun/ 0074.html [29] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2007AprJun/0074.html Comment 15 - wording. OK Comment 16. Suggestion adopted. OK Comment 17 - ask to s/3066/bcp47 <fsasaki> +1 Comment 18 - OK. Comment 19 - suggestion adopted. Comment 20 - ok Comment 21 - add xml:lang. OK Comment 22 - suggest change to title. Adopted. OK Comment 23 - remove fr markup from Fr/en phrases Comment 24 - pointing to odd version of XML. Needs to be fixed. Comment 25 - change link. OK Comment 26 - add xml:lang. OK Comment 27 - bcp47 thing. Ok Comment 28. Changes adopted C29 - missing tags - Adopted. C30 - Ruby. <r007a> [30]http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20-TECHS/#H62 [30] http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20-TECHS/#H62 Suggestion has been adopted. <r007a> DC: it also occurs in English and other Western European languages. -> it also sometimes ... C31 - suggestion adopted. C32. OK C33. Clarification adopted. <fsasaki> +1 RI will send all reponses to WCAG XML Schema and empty language values <r007a> drop this topic XQuery full text working drafts <fsasaki> [31]http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/0706-xquery-fulltext/ [31] http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/0706-xquery-fulltext/ XQuery 1.0/XPath 2.0 Comments C1: ambiguity around 'language'. RI - bcp47 does not give sufficient info on this. Remove last sentence. OK with Felix. C2 - Token vs. words RI/FS: safer to use token than word would mean a lot of editing for them David: would help translatabiilty too Agreed: we suggest they drop the term 'word', or at least ask that they let users know word=token Welcome Addison; intros etc. Summary of Action Items [NEW] ACTION: Greg, send out summary of issues and ideas surrounding TLD IDNs coming up for ICANN discussion [recorded in [32]http://www.w3.org/2007/06/05-core-minutes.html#action08] [PENDING] ACTION: Andrew, send proposals to list for changes to What should I consider wrt moving to UTF-8? [33]http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-utf8-upgrade.en.php [recorded in [34]http://www.w3.org/2007/05/29-core-minutes.html#action03] [PENDING] ACTION: David, redraft What is encoding, and why should I care? [35]http://esw.w3.org/topic/geoEncoding for 1st May recorded in [36]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-core-minutes.html#action02] [PENDING] ACTION: Felix, send private email to XML SChema to discuss point 2 in [37]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Mar/003 0.html and look at creating a page describing the proposal later [recorded in [38]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-core-minutes.html#action12] [PENDING] ACTION: RI, publish What should I consider wrt moving to UTF-8? [39]http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-utf8-upgrade.html [recorded in [40]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-core-minutes.html#action11] [PENDING] ACTION: Richard to follow up on "SVG WG comments on the 06 Nov CSS21 WD - issue 6" topic [recorded in [41]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-core-minutes.html#action08] [33] http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-utf8-upgrade.en.php [34] http://www.w3.org/2007/05/29-core-minutes.html#action03 [35] http://esw.w3.org/topic/geoEncoding [36] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-core-minutes.html#action02 [37] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Mar/0030.html [38] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-core-minutes.html#action12 [39] http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-utf8-upgrade.html [40] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-core-minutes.html#action11 [41] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-core-minutes.html#action08 [DONE] ACTION: Andrew, read comments for What should I consider wrt moving to UTF-8? [42]http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-utf8-upgrade.en.php and seek resolutions and propose necessary edits [recorded in [43]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-core-minutes.html#action11] [DONE] ACTION: David to sent a mail to CSS about the CSS 2.1 issue related to Unicode references [recorded in [44]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-core-minutes.html#action09] [42] http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-utf8-upgrade.en.php [43] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-core-minutes.html#action11 [44] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-core-minutes.html#action09 [End of minutes] ============ Richard Ishida Internationalization Lead W3C (World Wide Web Consortium) http://www.w3.org/People/Ishida/ http://www.w3.org/International/ http://people.w3.org/rishida/blog/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/ishida/
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