- From: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 18:07:39 +0100
- To: <public-i18n-core@w3.org>
http://www.w3.org/2007/06/05-core-minutes.html
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I18n Core telecon
5 Jun 2007
See also: [2]IRC log
[2] http://www.w3.org/2007/06/05-core-irc
Attendees
Present
Greg_Aaron, Michael_Monaghan, Richard, Felix, David,
Addison_Phillips, Najib Tounsi (on IRC)
Regrets
Chair
Richard Ishida
Scribe
Michael
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]Agenda & actions review
2. [5]Info Share
3. [6]Internationalization Best Practices: Handling
Right-to-left Scripts in XHTML and HTML Content
4. [7]WCAG responses to our review comments
5. [8]XML Schema and empty language values
6. [9]XQuery full text working drafts
* [10]Summary of Action Items
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Agenda & actions review
<r007a> [11]http://esw.w3.org/topic/coreHomework
[11] http://esw.w3.org/topic/coreHomework
<r007a> ACTION: Andrew, send proposals to list for changes to What
should I consider wrt moving to UTF-8?
[12]http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-utf8-upgrade.en.php
[recorded in
[13]http://www.w3.org/2007/05/29-core-minutes.html#action03] PENDING
[12] http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-utf8-upgrade.en.php
[13] http://www.w3.org/2007/05/29-core-minutes.html#action03
<r007a> ACTION: Andrew, read comments for What should I consider wrt
moving to UTF-8?
[14]http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-utf8-upgrade.en.php
and seek resolutions and propose necessary edits [recorded in
[15]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-core-minutes.html#action11] DONE
[14] http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-utf8-upgrade.en.php
[15] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-core-minutes.html#action11
<r007a> ACTION: David to sent a mail to CSS about the CSS 2.1 issue
related to Unicode references [recorded in
[16]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-core-minutes.html#action09] DONE
[16] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-core-minutes.html#action09
<r007a> ACTION: Felix, send private email to XML SChema to discuss
point 2 in
[17]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Mar/003
0.html and look at creating a page describing the proposal later
[recorded in
[18]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-core-minutes.html#action12] PENDING
[17] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Mar/0030.html
[18] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-core-minutes.html#action12
<r007a> paper written, but can't yet make public
<r007a> ACTION: David, redraft What is encoding, and why should I
care? [19]http://esw.w3.org/topic/geoEncoding for 1st May recorded
in [20]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-core-minutes.html#action02]
PENDING
[19] http://esw.w3.org/topic/geoEncoding
[20] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-core-minutes.html#action02
<r007a> ACTION: RI, publish What should I consider wrt moving to
UTF-8?
[21]http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-utf8-upgrade.html
[recorded in
[22]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-core-minutes.html#action11] PENDING
[21] http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-utf8-upgrade.html
[22] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-core-minutes.html#action11
<r007a> ACTION: Richard to follow up on "SVG WG comments on the 06
Nov CSS21 WD - issue 6" topic [recorded in
[23]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-core-minutes.html#action08] PENDING
[23] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-core-minutes.html#action08
Info Share
RI spoke at @media conf last week - good exposure for i18n, very
well received
Greg: i18n domain names topic for discussion in Puerto Rico next
week @ ICANN conf
<r007a> ACTION: Greg, send out summary of issues and ideas
surrounding TLD IDNs coming up for ICANN discussion [recorded in
[24]http://www.w3.org/2007/06/05-core-minutes.html#action08]
Internationalization Best Practices: Handling Right-to-left Scripts in
XHTML and HTML Content
<r007a>
[25]http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-i18n-html-tech-bidi-20070606/
[25] http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-i18n-html-tech-bidi-20070606/
<r007a> Ok to publish interim update draft tomorrow?
much progress on this doc
<r007a> Agreed: publish Internationalization Best Practices:
Handling Right-to-left Scripts in XHTML and HTML Content tomorrow
<najib> +1
<r007a> thanks najib
<najib> May be add meaningful Arabic words where necessary in the
examples
<najib> I can provide.
<r007a> ok, najib, we can do that later as this is just an interim
publication
<r007a> thanks
WCAG responses to our review comments
<r007a>
[26]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2007AprJun/
0072.html
[26] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2007AprJun/0072.html
<r007a>
[27]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2007AprJun/
0074.html
[27] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2007AprJun/0074.html
<r007a> Can we agree to send the responses outlined by Richard?
Suggestion: doc needs to be more readable; better sign-posting
RI will send the 'readability' comment on behalf of i18n group
David: suggest that they look at the 'Simplified English' standard.
Need plain English.
Comment 2
ok
comment 3 - typo
comment 4 - Dublin Core
no longer an issue. offending text removed
comment 5
suggestion to WG was followed
Comment 6 -Links to Liam Quinn's docs
- ok. Links removed. Docs were out of date.
Comment 7
suggestion followed. OK
Comment 8 - markup issue
suggestion followed. OK
Comment 9- xml:lang missing
suggestion followed. OK
Comment 10 -
suggestion followed. OK
Comment 11 - editorial thing on Ja example
fixed. OK
Comment 12
to do with directional attributes. RI said not an accessibility
issue.
References removed except in some understandable instances
Comment 13 - use of 'primary language'
Comment 14 - using html lang attribute
RI will send all above comments to WG
[28]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2007AprJun/
0074.html
[28] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2007AprJun/0074.html
<r007a>
[29]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2007AprJun/
0074.html
[29] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2007AprJun/0074.html
Comment 15 - wording. OK
Comment 16. Suggestion adopted. OK
Comment 17 - ask to s/3066/bcp47
<fsasaki> +1
Comment 18 - OK.
Comment 19 - suggestion adopted.
Comment 20 - ok
Comment 21 - add xml:lang. OK
Comment 22 - suggest change to title. Adopted. OK
Comment 23 - remove fr markup from Fr/en phrases
Comment 24 - pointing to odd version of XML. Needs to be fixed.
Comment 25 - change link. OK
Comment 26 - add xml:lang. OK
Comment 27 - bcp47 thing. Ok
Comment 28. Changes adopted
C29 - missing tags - Adopted.
C30 - Ruby.
<r007a> [30]http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20-TECHS/#H62
[30] http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20-TECHS/#H62
Suggestion has been adopted.
<r007a> DC: it also occurs in English and other Western European
languages. -> it also sometimes ...
C31 - suggestion adopted.
C32. OK
C33. Clarification adopted.
<fsasaki> +1
RI will send all reponses to WCAG
XML Schema and empty language values
<r007a> drop this topic
XQuery full text working drafts
<fsasaki>
[31]http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/0706-xquery-fulltext/
[31] http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/0706-xquery-fulltext/
XQuery 1.0/XPath 2.0 Comments
C1: ambiguity around 'language'.
RI - bcp47 does not give sufficient info on this. Remove last
sentence.
OK with Felix.
C2 - Token vs. words
RI/FS: safer to use token than word
would mean a lot of editing for them
David: would help translatabiilty too
Agreed: we suggest they drop the term 'word', or at least ask that
they let users know word=token
Welcome Addison; intros etc.
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Greg, send out summary of issues and ideas surrounding
TLD IDNs coming up for ICANN discussion [recorded in
[32]http://www.w3.org/2007/06/05-core-minutes.html#action08]
[PENDING] ACTION: Andrew, send proposals to list for changes to What
should I consider wrt moving to UTF-8?
[33]http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-utf8-upgrade.en.php
[recorded in
[34]http://www.w3.org/2007/05/29-core-minutes.html#action03]
[PENDING] ACTION: David, redraft What is encoding, and why should I
care? [35]http://esw.w3.org/topic/geoEncoding for 1st May recorded
in [36]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-core-minutes.html#action02]
[PENDING] ACTION: Felix, send private email to XML SChema to discuss
point 2 in
[37]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Mar/003
0.html and look at creating a page describing the proposal later
[recorded in
[38]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-core-minutes.html#action12]
[PENDING] ACTION: RI, publish What should I consider wrt moving to
UTF-8?
[39]http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-utf8-upgrade.html
[recorded in
[40]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-core-minutes.html#action11]
[PENDING] ACTION: Richard to follow up on "SVG WG comments on the 06
Nov CSS21 WD - issue 6" topic [recorded in
[41]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-core-minutes.html#action08]
[33] http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-utf8-upgrade.en.php
[34] http://www.w3.org/2007/05/29-core-minutes.html#action03
[35] http://esw.w3.org/topic/geoEncoding
[36] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-core-minutes.html#action02
[37] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Mar/0030.html
[38] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-core-minutes.html#action12
[39] http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-utf8-upgrade.html
[40] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-core-minutes.html#action11
[41] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-core-minutes.html#action08
[DONE] ACTION: Andrew, read comments for What should I consider wrt
moving to UTF-8?
[42]http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-utf8-upgrade.en.php
and seek resolutions and propose necessary edits [recorded in
[43]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-core-minutes.html#action11]
[DONE] ACTION: David to sent a mail to CSS about the CSS 2.1 issue
related to Unicode references [recorded in
[44]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-core-minutes.html#action09]
[42] http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-utf8-upgrade.en.php
[43] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-core-minutes.html#action11
[44] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-core-minutes.html#action09
[End of minutes]
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