[I18N Core] Teleconference Minutes 2007-05-01

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                           I18n Core telecon

1 May 2007

   See also: [2]IRC log

      [2] http://www.w3.org/2007/05/01-core-irc

Attendees

   Present
          Michael, Richard, Felix, Andrew, David

   Regrets
          Tom, Vijay, Karunesh, Greg, Pasquale, Roberto

   Chair
          Richard Ishida

   Scribe
          Michael

Contents

     * [3]Topics
         1. [4]Agenda & actions review
         2. [5]Info Share
         3. [6]EMMA review comments
         4. [7]SVG WG comments
         5. [8]CSS out of range unicode escapes
     * [9]Summary of Action Items
     _________________________________________________________



Agenda & actions review

   <r007a> ACTION: Felix to prepare Unicode in XML .. WG Note for
   publication [recorded in
   [10]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-core-minutes.html#action07] PENDING

     [10] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-core-minutes.html#action07

   <r007a> ACTION: Francois to sent a mail to CSS about the CSS 2.1
   issue related to Unicode references [recorded in
   [11]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-core-minutes.html#action09] PENDING

     [11] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-core-minutes.html#action09

   <r007a> ACTION: RI, make sure that it's clear we are talking about
   issue 79 and get the right uri [recorded in
   [12]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-core-minutes.html#action10] DONE

     [12] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-core-minutes.html#action10

   <r007a> ACTION: Richard to follow up on "SVG WG comments on the 06
   Nov CSS21 WD - issue 6" topic [recorded in
   [13]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-core-minutes.html#action08] PENDING

     [13] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-core-minutes.html#action08

   <r007a> ACTION: Andrew, read comments for What should I consider wrt
   moving to UTF-8?
   [14]http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-utf8-upgrade.en.php
   and seek resolutions and propose necessary edits [recorded in
   [15]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-core-minutes.html#action11] PENDING

     [14] http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-utf8-upgrade.en.php
     [15] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-core-minutes.html#action11

   <r007a> ACTION: David, redraft What is encoding, and why should I
   care? [16]http://esw.w3.org/topic/geoEncoding for 1st May recorded
   in [17]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-core-minutes.html#action02]
   [PENDING]

     [16] http://esw.w3.org/topic/geoEncoding
     [17] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-core-minutes.html#action02

   David has revised wiki and will fwd URL as /when updated.

   <r007a> ACTION: Felix, send private email to XML SChema to discuss
   point 2 in
   [18]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Mar/003
   0.html and look at creating a page describing the proposal later
   [recorded in
   [19]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-core-minutes.html#action12] PENDING

     [18] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Mar/0030.html
     [19] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-core-minutes.html#action12

   <r007a> ACTION: RI, publish What should I consider wrt moving to
   UTF-8?
   [20]http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-utf8-upgrade.html
   [recorded in
   [21]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-core-minutes.html#action11] PENDING

     [20] http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-utf8-upgrade.html
     [21] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-core-minutes.html#action11

   <r007a> ACTION: Richard, consider a F2F since it has been awhile.
   Before or at same time as plenary? [recorded in
   [22]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-core-minutes.html#action13] PENDING

     [22] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-core-minutes.html#action13

Info Share

   <fsasaki> [23]http://www.w3.org/2007/02/japanese-layout/

     [23] http://www.w3.org/2007/02/japanese-layout/

   <fsasaki>
   [24]http://www.w3.org/2007/02/japanese-layout/#minutes-documents

     [24] http://www.w3.org/2007/02/japanese-layout/#minutes-documents

   Felix restructured home page for ja layout site

   <fsasaki>
   [25]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-japanese-layout-en/20
   07Apr/0003.html

     [25] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-japanese-layout-en/2007Apr/0003.html

   <r007a> ACTION: All, provide feedback asap by email to Felix before
   next Wed on [26]http://www.w3.org/2007/02/japanese-layout/#objective
   and
   [27]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-japanese-layout-en/20
   07Apr/0003.html [recorded in
   [28]http://www.w3.org/2007/05/01-core-minutes.html#action11]

     [26] http://www.w3.org/2007/02/japanese-layout/#objective
     [27] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-japanese-layout-en/2007Apr/0003.html

   <r007a> ITS doing reviews
   [29]http://www.w3.org/International/its/reviews.html

     [29] http://www.w3.org/International/its/reviews.html

   RI - looking at W3C docs and URI specs. Should specify in terms of
   IRI.

EMMA review comments

   <r007a> [30]http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/0704-emma/

     [30] http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/0704-emma/

   <r007a> Discuss. Ok to send?

   emma - encoding declaration. May not be an issue - can just fallback
   to default.

   RI will edit comment #2 accordingly

   Emma allow xml:lang to have a null value?

   might depend on relationship to emma:lang

   ri change #3 to say: in xml 1.0 you can indicate absence of language
   information, how does EMMA allow for that in xml:lang and emma:lang?

   Comment #4: diff/relationship between emma:lang and xml:lang?

   Analogous to HTTP content-type & HTML head content?

   Felix- EMMA can link modalities together, using the emma:lang
   attribute information ... audio/video signals .. have
   "interpretations"

   David - example of En movie with Fr subtitles

   RI: will change comment to "it's not clear how to us how emma:lang
   should be used..."

   pls provide examples contrasting usage of xml:lang with emma:lang

   Comment #5

   multiple language separators

   comma is the typical separator - should use same in EMMA.

   Comment #6 - simple typo

   Comment #7

   URI definition should be normative. Agreed.

   Comment #8

   XML 1.0 does not mention IRIs

   EMMA should adopt XQuery URI defn

   XML WG wrking on slightly diff defn for resource identifiers - could
   complicate things

   Submit comment as is.

SVG WG comments

   RI: very complex. Needs more time, reading previous threads, get MD
   involved.

CSS out of range unicode escapes

   David: should treat out of range characters as errors

   RI - asks David to mail public list w proposal on what to say to CSS

   <r007a> ACTION: David, David to mail public list w proposal on what
   to say to CSS wrt
   [31]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2007Apr/0045.html
   [recorded in
   [32]http://www.w3.org/2007/05/01-core-minutes.html#action12]

     [31] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2007Apr/0045.html

   End of Agenda.

   Next week's mtg. RI traveling ; may not have much time to write
   agenda etc.

   short/informal mtg next week.

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: All, provide feedback asap by email to Felix before
   next Wed on [33]http://www.w3.org/2007/02/japanese-layout/#objective
   and
   [34]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-japanese-layout-en/20
   07Apr/0003.html [recorded in
   [35]http://www.w3.org/2007/05/01-core-minutes.html#action11]
   [NEW] ACTION: David, David to mail public list w proposal on what to
   say to CSS wrt
   [36]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2007Apr/0045.html
   [recorded in
   [37]http://www.w3.org/2007/05/01-core-minutes.html#action12]

     [33] http://www.w3.org/2007/02/japanese-layout/#objective
     [34] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-japanese-layout-en/2007Apr/0003.html
     [36] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2007Apr/0045.html

   [PENDING] ACTION: Andrew, read comments for What should I consider
   wrt moving to UTF-8?
   [38]http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-utf8-upgrade.en.php
   and seek resolutions and propose necessary edits [recorded in
   [39]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-core-minutes.html#action11]
   [PENDING] ACTION: David, redraft What is encoding, and why should I
   care? [40]http://esw.w3.org/topic/geoEncoding for 1st May recorded
   in [41]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-core-minutes.html#action02]
   [PENDING] ACTION: Felix to prepare Unicode in XML .. WG Note for
   publication [recorded in
   [42]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-core-minutes.html#action07]
   [PENDING] ACTION: Felix, send private email to XML SChema to discuss
   point 2 in
   [43]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Mar/003
   0.html and look at creating a page describing the proposal later
   [recorded in
   [44]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-core-minutes.html#action12]
   [PENDING] ACTION: Francois to sent a mail to CSS about the CSS 2.1
   issue related to Unicode references [recorded in
   [45]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-core-minutes.html#action09]
   [PENDING] ACTION: RI, publish What should I consider wrt moving to
   UTF-8?
   [46]http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-utf8-upgrade.html
   [recorded in
   [47]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-core-minutes.html#action11]
   [PENDING] ACTION: Richard to follow up on "SVG WG comments on the 06
   Nov CSS21 WD - issue 6" topic [recorded in
   [48]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-core-minutes.html#action08]
   [PENDING] ACTION: Richard, consider a F2F since it has been awhile.
   Before or at same time as plenary? [recorded in
   [49]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-core-minutes.html#action13]

     [38] http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-utf8-upgrade.en.php
     [39] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-core-minutes.html#action11
     [40] http://esw.w3.org/topic/geoEncoding
     [41] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-core-minutes.html#action02
     [42] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-core-minutes.html#action07
     [43] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Mar/0030.html
     [44] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-core-minutes.html#action12
     [45] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-core-minutes.html#action09
     [46] http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-utf8-upgrade.html
     [47] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-core-minutes.html#action11
     [48] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-core-minutes.html#action08
     [49] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-core-minutes.html#action13

   [DONE] ACTION: RI, make sure that it's clear we are talking about
   issue 79 and get the right uri [recorded in
   [50]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-core-minutes.html#action10]

     [50] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-core-minutes.html#action10

   [End of minutes]

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