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RE: [techs] Test 49 Suggestion

From: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 15:43:17 -0000
To: "'Michael Cooper'" <michaelc@watchfire.com>, "'WAI WCAG List'" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Cc: <public-i18n-core@w3.org>
Message-Id: <20050214154316.887C04F04B@homer.w3.org>

[Copying i18n]

Just noticed this.  Please do not recommend putting language information on
the body element.  Please strongly recommend that it be put on the html

Please also look at http://www.w3.org/TR/i18n-html-tech-lang/ before
designing your test.

Also, note that the test procedure is incorrect in step 6.  A French
Canadian document may be marked up as fr-CA, which is more than just a ISO
639 language code.  (Another example, Simplified Chinese may be zh-Hans,
using a special IANA-registered code.)  The correct reference point is RFC
3066 *or it's successors* (since one is currently in preparation).  This is
a large set of possibilities, so I'm not sure how you will easily be able to
test that the code is correct.

Alternatively, you might recommend that the *first part* of the langauge
code is an ISO 639 or IANA registered code.  Just thought that up, so I'm
not sure whether it makes sense.

Also, you should reconsider your test files
- the examples shown seem to assume an XML MIME type, rather than text/html
by saying that the lang attribute is invalid
-	or did you mean that the language attribute value, "language", is
invalid? - in which case, you should still specify the MIME type used (ie.
currently text/html)

Best regards,

Richard Ishida

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org 
> [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Michael Cooper
> Sent: 14 February 2005 15:11
> To: WAI WCAG List
> Subject: RE: [techs] Test 49 Suggestion
> I think there is nothing wrong with providing the "lang" 
> attribute on the <body> element, but I think we should still 
> require it on the <html> element. This is a place we can 
> expect user agents to be consistent in looking for the 
> attribute. Also, there are elements in the <head> section of 
> the document that require language information, such as the 
> title, description, keywords, and potentially others. While 
> it possible to see the attribute on those individually, I 
> just think it is good practice to have the attribute at the 
> highest level possible. Michael
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris Ridpath [mailto:chris.ridpath@utoronto.ca]
> > Sent: February 11, 2005 2:54 PM
> > To: WAI WCAG List
> > Cc: y.p.hoitink@heritas.nl; Michael Cooper
> > Subject: [techs] Test 49 Suggestion
> > 
> > 
> > Yvette suggested that another way to pass test 49 [1] would 
> be to put 
> > a lang attribute on the body tag. e.g. <body lang="nl>
> > 
> > Should we permit this? Or do we always require that the HTML lang
> > attribute(s) be set?
> > 
> > Chris
> > 
> > [1] http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/tests/test49.html
> > 
> > 
Received on Monday, 14 February 2005 15:43:19 UTC

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