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[CharMod] Teleconference Notes 2005-02-03

From: Addison Phillips [wM] <aphillips@webmethods.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 17:52:44 -0800
To: <public-i18n-core@w3.org>
Message-ID: <PNEHIBAMBMLHDMJDDFLHKELIJCAA.aphillips@webmethods.com>

Attendees: Martin, Richard, Francois, Addison (chair, scribe)
Regrets: Tex

Accumulated Action Items:

ALL: provide comments on the newly posted comments and test pages
ALL: provide testamonials about how cool CharMod is

AP: provide additional edits of IRI test page
RI: convey our official acceptance of xml:id (done)
RI: respond to Kuro
MD: populate the response table, add Bjoern's comments
AP: send out links to Tex and Addison's musing
FY: make a first-pass cut at making a new CharModNorm with Late Normalization skeleton in it.

=== [Notes] ===

<Zakim> I18N_WG(char_mod)5:00PM has now started

[Agenda Addenda]

<r12a> let's take a decision on xml:id
<apphillips> xml:id 
<apphillips> by acclamation... accepted the resolution

[CharMod and IRI Pages]

<apphillips> three new pages. 
<apphillips> 2 issue pages are up now (with some issues) 
<apphillips> testing page is up 
<MJDuerst> http://www.w3.org/International/2005/charmod-edit/comments.html
<MJDuerst> http://www.w3.org/International/2005/charmod-resid-edit/comments.html
<MJDuerst> http://www.w3.org/International/iri-edit/testing.html
<apphillips> please provide comments on these as appropriate 
<apphillips> IRI test list: needs to have a list for each axis 
<apphillips> --- 

<apphillips> links on the comments pages in left hand column points to itself. 
<apphillips> This is a feature. 
<apphillips> It allows the user to click on item and get the URI that points to that item in their address bar 
<apphillips> --- 
<apphillips> "Character Model: a fine document, everyone should have one" 
<apphillips> Provide testimonials. 

[Off Topic Ramblings]
<r12a> ============
<r12a> try this with Firefox developer extension...
<r12a> Information > Display topographic information, then in addition
<r12a> Information > Display id & class details, then in addition
<r12a> Outline > Outline block level details
<r12a> ============

Also: Yes, yes, yes, Addison uses an IBM classic keyboard, so everyone can tell when he's typing the notes. Sheesh.

[PR/CR Comment Review]

<apphillips> http://www.w3.org/International/2005/charmod-edit/comments.html#ISO-URI-01 
<apphillips> editorial comment. 
<apphillips> --- 
<apphillips> NB> we won't have to bless CharMod again 
<apphillips> (but testimonials would be very valuable) 
<apphillips> --- 
<apphillips> richard: please to respond to Kuro (tomorrow would be good if possible) 
<apphillips> MD: to populate the table with it when response goes out 
<apphillips> MD: to add Bjoern's comments into the table 
<apphillips> ---- 


<apphillips> CharModNorm 
<apphillips> addison: summary of where I think we left off 
<apphillips> AP: to send links to last emails out 
<apphillips> (reminder) read CharReq document 
<apphillips> Need to decide if the old requirements still hold 
<apphillips> or if they need updates. 
<apphillips> two things: 1) how do we organize ourselves for success and 2) how is sucess defined? 
<apphillips> --- 
<apphillips> http://www.w3.org/TR/WD-charreq 
<apphillips> Martin: 
<apphillips> requirements talks about EUN 
<apphillips> makes a good case for motivating that 
<apphillips> how important is it for the infrastructure? 
<apphillips> more important for identifiers than for running text 
<apphillips> doc doesn't distinguish this and spec doesn't eiter 
<apphillips> spec deals with a lot of edge cases 
<Zakim> -Martin
<apphillips> FY: 2.1 and 4.1 are most important 
<apphillips> FY: 3.1 doesn't appear to be a requirement, but rather a solution

AP: we appear not to have met this requirement: :-P
<apphillips>  4.7 The String indexing specification shall be prepared quickly  
<apphillips> Several upcoming W3C specifications depend on a clear character model and in particular on clear definitions for string indexing. It is therefore crucial that no time is lost.  

<apphillips> RI: need a proposal 
<apphillips> AP: need to identify cases similar to identifiers 
<apphillips> (where normalization is a requirement) 
<apphillips> once EUN is out the window, then Late Normalization is the source of requirements 
<apphillips> FY:market has already gone there 
<apphillips> FY will try to take a pass through. 
<apphillips> FY:stylesheets and whatnot up to date? 
<apphillips> RI: to check 
<apphillips> (can check tomorrow) 
<apphillips> --- 

Addison P. Phillips
Director, Globalization Architecture

Chair, W3C Internationalization Core Working Group

Internationalization is an architecture. 
It is not a feature.
Received on Friday, 4 February 2005 01:58:22 UTC

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