- From: Koji Ishii <kojiishi@gmail.com>
- Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 11:26:49 +0900
- To: "www-style@w3.org" <www-style@w3.org>
- Cc: CJK discussion <public-i18n-cjk@w3.org>
From the Sydney minutes[1]: > fantasai: 1) Change initial value to center. Reset it for Japanese > to be space-around in the UA stylesheet. > fantasai: 2) Keep it as space-around, reset it for Chinese to > center. > fantasai: 3) Have a value that does custom justifications - auto - > which justifies between Han and Kana, and not between > bopomofo. > > fantasai: Spec is currently 2. > fantasai: But multi-word ruby you may not want to justify spaces, > so maybe 1 or 3 is better. I do not understand this…can you explain a bit more? > fantasai: It seems only Han/Kana should be justifying. > TabAtkins: 1 seems simple then. > SteveZ: 3 is the classic way we do it, but it requires magic. > fantasai: I don't think 3 is too magic, but 1 is definitely > simpler. > fantasai: Main concern with 1 is "do we have a concern with legacy > untagged content?" > SteveZ: 3 is script-based. > SteveZ: Why is 1 better? > fantasai: Simpler. 1 is just a 1-line fix to your UA stylesheet; 3 > is effectively a new justification algorithm. > TabAtkins: Can we just do 1 unless we see evidence of breakage in > the wild? All pages with ruby and without lang will break. > fantasai: Dunno what Koji wants. Let's do 1 unless Koji dissents. > > RESOLVED: Either option 1 or 3 for ruby-position, at editor's > discretion. So, not 1 please. I think the question is how to justify Bopomofo, rather than the default value of ruby-align. This real-world page[2] indicates that Bopomofo is a space-delimited scripts, so I'm guessing we do not want justify between Bopomofo, similar to Korean, where Hanja justifies between letters while Hangul does not. I would love to see if there were any real example of justified Bopomofo, but IIUC Richard has been trying that without success, even for single example. [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2015Mar/0318.html [2] http://uncyclopedia.tw/wiki/%E3%84%93%E3%84%A8%CB%8B_%E3%84%A7%E3%84%A3_%E3%84%A8%E3%84%A3%CB%8A /koji
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