- From: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 12:03:56 +0000
- To: "CJK discussion (public-i18n-cjk@w3.org)" <public-i18n-cjk@w3.org>
These were some off-line comments I sent to Robin wrt the HTML Ruby Extension. I'll forward his replies too, shortly. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: HTML Ruby Extension Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 18:17:02 +0000 From: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org> Some comments: [1] In your examples I think you need to use graphics to make clear what you are talking about. The i18n WG already raised a bug against the HTML5 spec to that effect. Eg. in Firefox i just see 君くん子しは和わして同どうぜず。 for the example under mono-ruby, which really isn't helpful to understand what's what - esp with the inline hiragana ;-) . [2] a more significant issue: I think the markup proposed for jukugo ruby is too complicated for the general case <ruby><rb>上<rb>手<rt>じよう<rt>ず</ruby> should just be <ruby>上<rt>じよう</rt>手<rt>ず</ruby> jukugo ruby is just mono-ruby - it's the styling that makes the difference, by allowing slightly more complicated overlapping than you would for mono-ruby. At the very least you should state this, and not leave people thinking that they have to use a tabular approach for juguko base text. [3] [RUBY-UC] is missing from the refs, so no-one can link to it [4] in the section Inline ruby you say This can be marked up as follows: <ruby>東<rb>京<rt>とう<rt>きょう</ruby> But if you mark it up like that you won't get what you want at all, surely. You'll get 東京とうきょう with no parens. [5] for double-sided ruby, it is sometimes the case that the rtc text relates to only, say, 2 out of the three characters with annotations above. Is that possible? (maybe i need to read a bit further to find the answer) Also, is it possible to have the group ruby on the top and the non-group below? What about when you have text above spanning two base characters as group ruby then one mono ruby, while below you have either a single group-ruby for all three base characters or three individual ruby annotations, one for each base character? .... RI On 12/02/2013 17:32, Robin Berjon wrote: > Hi, > > you've all expressed some degree of interest in this work. Please find > my first stab at: > > http://darobin.github.com/html-ruby/ > > You can find a playground that matches the algorithm at: > > http://berjon.com/tmp/inception/playground/render-ruby/ > > I've just finished tweaking it. I plan to send it to the HTML WG for > review tomorrow (after I sleep on my changes a bit). In the meantime, if > there's anything you wish to scream about, feel free to do so :) > -- Richard Ishida W3C http://rishida.net/ -- Richard Ishida W3C http://rishida.net/
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