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From: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 15:53:43 +0000
Message-ID: <4F0F0207.5090900@w3.org>
To: "CJK discussion (public-i18n-cjk@w3.org)" <public-i18n-cjk@w3.org>
Ian Hickson, the HTML5 editor, is waiting for us to make some clear 
recommendations about whether rb is needed for simple ruby markup, and 
how to approach complex ruby support.

Time is now pressing. We have until February 11th to submit a change 

In order to help focus the discussions on the bugzilla threads at
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10830 (Please add support 
for rb)
I produced a wiki page at
that shows alternative approaches that meet various use cases, and 
offers pros and cons for each.

Please give your opinions, with reasoned arguments, on which approaches 
work best. Please try not to focus on one small aspect, but consider 
things within the wider framework. Note that we are not focusing on the 
legacy usage of rb as much as on how to make the markup as simple and 
effective as possible going forward.

Here are some key questions:

1. do we need rb for simple ruby, or will span suffice? (take into 
account the use case related to fallback)

2. do we need rb and rtc for complex ruby support, or is it sufficient 
to rely on a mixture of recursive ruby markup plus a second <rt> element 
(depending on the use case)?

I look forward to hearing from you.  To avoid fragmentation, and because 
we can't discuss rb without discussing complex ruby, the i18n WG 
proposes that we make our comments on this list, and then put a summary 
proposal to the editor before the deadline for the change proposal.

Best regards,

PS: Leif Halvard Silli has independently submitted a change proposal by 
himself at http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/IncludeRB

Richard Ishida
Internationalization Activity Lead
W3C (World Wide Web Consortium)

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