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https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18490 --- Comment #4 from Aharon Lanin <aharon.lists.lanin@gmail.com> --- Recently I investigated the effects of the dir attribute in IE, and discovered some significant new information (at least it was new to me) that affects the conclusions I reached as described in comment 1. It is true that no existing version of IE, including IE10, implements isolation (i.e. unicode-bidi:isolate). However, it turns out that IE8 and up, unless it is in IE7 compatibility or quirks mode, has modified the behavior of unicode-bidi:embed that is non-standard and not interoperable with other browsers, and in most cases acts similar to isolation. This behavior appears to be that an inline element bearing the dir attribute affects the visual ordering of its surroundings as if it were immediately preceded by an invisible character of the element's directionality, but immediately followed by an invisible character of the parent element's directionality. Thus, <div dir="ltr">א ==> <span dir="rtl">*</span></div> is displayed as * <== א which is as specified and the same as FF, WebKit, and IE7 and below, but <div dir="ltr"><span dir="rtl">*</span> ==> ב</div> <div dir="ltr"><span dir="rtl">*</span> ==> 123</div> is displayed as * ==> ב * ==> 123 which is the opposite ordering from IE7, the spec, and from all other major browsers. This unusual approach cannot be said to approximate the standard embedding semantics. While it certainly is not isolation either, its effects are actually the same as isolation when both of the following conditions are satisfied: - The dir attribute value assigned to the inline element is the opposite of its parent element's directionality. - If the first strong character preceding an inline element with a dir attribute has the same directionality as that element, it too is inside an inline element with a dir attribute. These conditions are actually more commonly satisfied than not, because: - It is usually redundant to put a dir attribute on an element if its parent already has that directionality. - If a software application creating a web page bothers to declare the directionality of one piece of opposite-direction text that it needs to display inline, it is likely to do the same for another. Thus, once could say that under the most common circumstances, the behavior of IE8 and up (when acting as IE8 and up) is closer to isolation than to embedding. But even if that seems like a stretch, it is quite safe to say that currently there is a lack of interoperability in the behavior of the dir attribute between the current versions of IE and of the other major browsers (which continue to follow the current HTML specification and give the dir attribute embedding semantics). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
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