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http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10820 Aharon Lanin <aharon.lists.lanin@gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED CC| |aharon.lists.lanin@gmail.co | |m Resolution|FIXED | --- Comment #4 from Aharon Lanin <aharon.lists.lanin@gmail.com> 2010-10-13 22:20:22 UTC --- (In reply to comment #2) > Checked in as WHATWG revision r5589. > Check-in comment: Add a note about keeping the alignment right for <select> > http://html5.org/tools/web-apps-tracker?from=5588&to=5589 The revision is problematic. It adds: <p>User agents are expected to consistently render the labels in a <code>select</code>, in particular ensuring that any left-to-right or right-to-left alignment is consistent whether the label is being displayed as part of the page or in a menu control.</p> There are several problems: 1. Alignment values include "left" and "right", but not "left-to-right" or "right-to-left". Those ("ltr" and "rtl") are direction values. 2. The meaning is unclear. "User agents are expected to consistently render the labels in a <code>select</code>" can be easily misunderstood to mean that some aspect(s) of rendering, e.g. direction, should be consistent across all the labels in a select, i.e. all the labels should be aligned according to the select's alignment value. That was *not* the bug's intent. The consistency that this bug and bug 10819 demand is in the way a label is displayed before and after being selected. That is, if a label was displayed in the ltr direction (e.g. "hello!", not "!hello") before being selected (in the drop-down), it should still be ltr after being selected - even though the <select> may be rtl (that's bug 10819). This is currently not always the case in Firefox or Chrome. And if a label was displayed left-aligned before being selected, it should still be displayed left-aligned after being selected (that's this bug). This is currently not always the case in Firefox. It is possible that the revision was in fact trying for the consistency we hand in mind when it said "whether the label is being displayed as part of the page or in a menu control", but I am not sure what "part of the page" and "menu control" mean here. Now, the bug was also demanding one more thing: that the option element should support the text-align CSS property. I now see that this demand is inappropriate for two reasons: - It is a CSS issue, not HTML. - It would result in options with different direction in having different alignment by default. This is neither what most users want nor what browsers (with the single exception of Firefox) do. I therefore want to drop that demand. The HTML spec revision that I would therefore want is: <p>User agents are expected to render a label in a <code>select</code> with the same direction and alignment it had before being chosen after it has been chosen.</p> -- Configure bugmail: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug. You reported the bug.
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