- From: Saadat Mateen via GitHub <sysbot+gh@w3.org>
- Date: Sat, 25 May 2024 07:30:01 +0000
- To: public-i18n-archive@w3.org
saadatm has just created a new issue for https://github.com/w3c/predefined-counter-styles: == Urdu styles == I would like to discuss a few points about Urdu counter styles. <hr> In Urdu lists, counters are usually followed by U+06D4 ARABIC FULL STOP. Some examples are below:  _(from_ [Lisani Mutale](https://www.rekhta.org/ebooks/lisani-mutale-gyan-chand-jain-ebooks), _by Gian Chand Jain)_  _(from_ Monthly Aankh Micholee, _July 1986)_  _(from_ [Imla Nama](https://www.rekhta.org/ebooks/imla-nama-ebooks))  _(from_ [Afsane Ki Himayat Mein](https://www.rekhta.org/ebooks/afsane-ki-himayat-mein-shamsur-rahman-faruqi-ebooks), _by Shamsur Rahman Faruqi)_ The document currently mentions in [a note](https://w3c.github.io/predefined-counter-styles/#issue-container-generatedID-1) that `urdu` is identical to `persian`. It would be helpful to mention the 06D4 suffix in that note, too. Even better: We can include the full counter style definition for Urdu. Now that this document is [mentioned in the spec](https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/commit/05984c06de316781dd3b1916341f8cd31954e8f5) (and web browsers are soon expected to include these counter styles by default), an `urdu` counter style with the common appropriate suffix that CSS authors can easily use would be nice. <hr> I noticed in [a recent commit](https://github.com/w3c/predefined-counter-styles/commit/ee891b82125075f50d6c9ab9bbc47beb882b4ad0) that initial definitions for two Urdu styles, `urdu-alphabetic` and `urdu-abjad`, were added. CDAC's description of `urdu-alphabetic` being an unlimited style with characters getting doubled after exhaustion is interesting. I [asked on an Urdu forum](https://www.urduweb.org/mehfil/threads/120678) if anybody has seen its examples, but we haven't been able to find any yet (I would love to see one!) A counter style for `urdu-abjad` will be beneficial: We needed it for the content of _Imla Nama_, and at that time we rolled [our own definition](https://github.com/urduweb/imla/blob/8ffd6f43562579ab1a5a835e9bc1a412831561c8/_sass/_imla-nama.scss#L45) (which is identical to what is added in that commit). However, in the aforementioned thread on the Urdu forum, a friend shared [a book](https://archive.org/details/heer-waris-shah-sheikh-abdul-aziz/page/n5/mode/2up) (about Punjabi poetry, but with extensive commentary and footnotes in Urdu), which uses two different Abjad orderings: * For the page numbers of the book's front matter, it uses یا and یب and یج for 11, 12, 13 (this is also being discussed in #23). * In the preface, when listing the sources used to compile the book, it uses the "usual" ordering of ک and ل and م for 11, 12, 13. I have no idea why two different orderings were used, but I thought that it would be an interesting example to share. (In contrast, another [Urdu poetry book](https://archive.org/details/bangidara/page/n1/mode/2up) also uses Abjad numerals for its front matter pages, but employs ک and ل and م for 11, 12, 13.) Please view or discuss this issue at https://github.com/w3c/predefined-counter-styles/issues/63 using your GitHub account -- Sent via github-notify-ml as configured in https://github.com/w3c/github-notify-ml-config
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