[minutes] Arabic layout task force telecon 2016-01-12

https://www.w3.org/2016/01/12-alreq-minutes.html





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ALReq Weekly Meeting

12 Jan 2016

    See also: [2]IRC log

       [2] http://www.w3.org/2016/01/12-alreq-irc

Attendees

    Present
           Behnam, mostafa, r12a, Amr, najib

    Regrets
           Shervin

    Chair
           Behnam

    Scribe
           mostafa

Contents

      * [3]Topics
          1. [4]Status review of action items from previous meeting
          2. [5]Glossary status
          3. [6]Review of Github issues
          4. [7]Drafting status
      * [8]Summary of Action Items
      * [9]Summary of Resolutions
      __________________________________________________________

    <Behnam> agenda Status review of action items from previous
    meeting

    <najib> Hi every body and happy new year!

    Hi and happy New Year, Najib.

    <scribe> Scribenick: mostafa

Status review of action items from previous meeting

    Behnam: Let’s keep this one a short meeting. Do a quick touch
    base until next week that we have everybody in the meeting.

    <Behnam> ACTION-24: Start drafting arrangement and joining
    behaviour

    <trackbot> Notes added to ACTION-24 Start drafting arrangement
    and joining behaviour.

    <Behnam> close action-24

    <trackbot> Closed action-24.

    Behnam: Shervin and Waseem told that they don’t have any
    updates for their actions.

    <Behnam>
    [10]https://www.w3.org/International/groups/arabic-layout/track
    /actions/open?sort=owner

      [10] 
https://www.w3.org/International/groups/arabic-layout/track/actions/open?sort=owner

    Behnam: Action-24 and Action-41 are for Mostafa

    Mostafa: Action-24 is already done and merged into the
    document.
    ... Action-41 is not done yet, but I’l have an initial draft
    next week.

    Behnam: Action-40 is for Richard.

    <Behnam> ACTION-7: Provide additional text for the section
    "fonts and typographical considerations" based on discussions
    on the mailing list and irc

    <trackbot> Notes added to ACTION-7 Provide additional text for
    the section "fonts and typographical considerations" based on
    discussions on the mailing list and irc.

    Richard: I haven’t worked on this yet.

    Behnam: Action-7 and Action-32 are for Najib.

    Najib: Action-7 doesn‘t have much update from my side. I have
    added some markup, but haven’t put it in the GitHub yet.
    ... You can close action-32. It’s already done.

    Behnam: Re action-32: it’s already in the spreadsheet?

    Najib: Finished the translation, but not the transliteration
    yet.

    <Behnam> Draft Glossary:
    [11]https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nSxYKQm_mKroCmxU4fy
    J-g70Eo1_mF89yHZg8YNOuzc/

      [11] 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nSxYKQm_mKroCmxU4fyJ-g70Eo1_mF89yHZg8YNOuzc/

    Richard: Najib, I started doing some of the transliterations. I
    corrected a couple of things.
    ... Like using an “o” where there was an “a” or “u” or
    something like that, but I’d like you to continue on this.

    Najib: Do you want to continue or do you want me to continue?

    Richard: It’s up to you.

    Behnam: One point regarding translitarions: did we agree on
    using different transliterations for different languages?

    Richard: Yes.

    <r12a> [12]http://r12a.github.io/pickers/arabic/

      [12] http://r12a.github.io/pickers/arabic/

    Richard: Najib, you could continue transliteration by just
    adding vowels and using my picker tool.

    Najib, do you still need some help for understanding GitHub? I
    did write some documentation.

    scribe: Shervin saw it and thought it was good.

    Behnam: I had a quick look too.

    Richard: We can send it to Najib.

    <Behnam> ACTION: Behnam to review the Github intro guide
    [recorded in
    [13]http://www.w3.org/2016/01/12-alreq-minutes.html#action01]

      [13] http://www.w3.org/2016/01/12-alreq-minutes.html#action01]

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-42 - Review the github intro guide
    [on Behnam Esfahbod - due 2016-01-19].

    <r12a> ACTION: Richard to send github information to Najib
    [recorded in
    [14]http://www.w3.org/2016/01/12-alreq-minutes.html#action02]

      [14] http://www.w3.org/2016/01/12-alreq-minutes.html#action02]

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-43 - Send github information to najib
    [on Richard Ishida - due 2016-01-19].

    Richard: I’ll send it to the list.

    <r12a>
    [15]https://www.w3.org/International/groups/arabic-layout/

      [15] https://www.w3.org/International/groups/arabic-layout/

    My third question is whether we should move the homepage to the
    GitHub too?

    scribe: That way it would be easier to edit the homepage.

    Behnam: Yes. It works for me. That would make it easier to edit
    for me.

    <r12a> ACTION: Richard to move task force home page to github
    [recorded in
    [16]http://www.w3.org/2016/01/12-alreq-minutes.html#action03]

      [16] http://www.w3.org/2016/01/12-alreq-minutes.html#action03]

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-44 - Move task force home page to
    github [on Richard Ishida - due 2016-01-19].

    Richard: The URL will change, so it will be redirected from W3C
    server to the new URL.

Glossary status

    Richard: Shervin was going to move the spreadsheet to the
    GitHub.
    ... Is he still doing that?

    Behnam: Yes. There is an action item for that.

Review of Github issues

    [17]https://github.com/w3c/alreq/issues

      [17] https://github.com/w3c/alreq/issues

    Behnam: Let’s just focus on the active issues and don’t review
    the ones that we’ve already decided to push back.
    ... Richard, do you want to talk about #22, variant letter
    shapes?

    Richard: Shervin said that he’ll add some explanations to the
    document. So, I guess we should keep issue open until we have
    that text.

    Behnam: Should we close issue #21? Is that a dup of #16?

    Mostafa: I suggest adding a comment concluding the issue before
    closing it.

    Richard: Agreed with Mostafa. Issue #21 was about whether we
    ant to do the transcription or not. And we decided that yes, we
    do that.
    ... So we can close #21 with a comment with that conclusion and
    talk about transcription schemes in #16.

    <Behnam> "Font and typographical considerations" Draft #15

    Najib: We can close issues #15 and #9. Both are the same.

    Mostafa: We should keep one until we’ve merged the text into
    the document.

    <r12a> +1 to Mostafa

    Behnam: +1
    ... Closing #15.

    <Behnam> [18]https://github.com/w3c/alreq/issues/13

      [18] https://github.com/w3c/alreq/issues/13

    Mostafa: Issue #13 is a place for an ongoing discussion.

    Richard: Regarding #13, Mostafa, we had a discussion about
    quotation marks.

    Mostafa: Yes, I’m not going to hold a strong idea here. Doesn’t
    matter to me which way we go (using quotations literally or
    using spans). So I was going to send a PR implementing your
    idea.

    <Behnam> [19]https://github.com/w3c/alreq/issues/3

      [19] https://github.com/w3c/alreq/issues/3

    Behnam: What’s your idea about adding an “ongoing discussion“
    label for labeling discussion-only issues?

    Mostafa: +1. We can also have a “future” label for the issues
    that are not active right now.
    ... Issues #3, #4, and #5 are to be added to the sctions that
    are not being drafted right now.
    ... Issues #3 and #4 belong to first section of the third
    chapter: “Alighnment and Joining Behavior”.

    Behnam: Does “future” mean not including the version 1.0?

    <Behnam> [20]https://github.com/w3c/alreq/issues/8

      [20] https://github.com/w3c/alreq/issues/8

    Mostafa: We can just mean “future” as something we don’t want
    to review actively now.

    Richard: +1

    <najib> +1

    Mostafa: We can create milestones for categorizing issues into
    the ones for the first version and future versions.

    Behnam: I’m creating milestones now.

    <Behnam> Open issues for the First_Public_Draft milestone:
    [21]https://github.com/w3c/alreq/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+
    milestone%3AFirst_Public_Draft

      [21] 
https://github.com/w3c/alreq/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+milestone%3AFirst_Public_Draft

    Behnam: What is the status of #8?

    Mostafa: We are waiting for Shervin to build the tables out of
    CLDR.

Drafting status

    Behnam: We covered most of the drafting status through action
    items and issues.

    Najib: Arabic Representation Forms characters are sometimes
    useful and can be used to work around some problems.

    Behnam: These have always been deprecated in the Unicode
    standard.

    Richard: Agreed to Behnam. And we should not use them, because
    using them breaks data.
    ... So I guess it’s worth having something to talk about them
    and say that they should not be used.

    Behnam: Chapter 8 of the Unicode has a good explanation of
    encoding issues and we can add a note about it.

    <Behnam> ACTION: Behnam to write a paragraph to reference to
    the Arabic Script chapter of the Unicode Standard [recorded in
    [22]http://www.w3.org/2016/01/12-alreq-minutes.html#action05]

      [22] http://www.w3.org/2016/01/12-alreq-minutes.html#action05]

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-45 - Write a paragraph to reference
    to the arabic script chapter of the unicode standard [on Behnam
    Esfahbod - due 2016-01-19].

Summary of Action Items

    [NEW] ACTION: Behnam to review the Github intro guide [recorded
    in
    [23]http://www.w3.org/2016/01/12-alreq-minutes.html#action01]
    [NEW] ACTION: Behnam to write a paragraph to reference to the
    Arabic Script chapter of the Unicode Standard [recorded in
    [24]http://www.w3.org/2016/01/12-alreq-minutes.html#action05]
    [NEW] ACTION: Richard to move task force home page to github
    [recorded in
    [25]http://www.w3.org/2016/01/12-alreq-minutes.html#action03]
    [NEW] ACTION: Richard to send github information to Najib
    [recorded in
    [26]http://www.w3.org/2016/01/12-alreq-minutes.html#action02]

      [23] http://www.w3.org/2016/01/12-alreq-minutes.html#action01
      [24] http://www.w3.org/2016/01/12-alreq-minutes.html#action05
      [25] http://www.w3.org/2016/01/12-alreq-minutes.html#action03
      [26] http://www.w3.org/2016/01/12-alreq-minutes.html#action02

Summary of Resolutions

    [End of minutes]

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