[minutes] Arabic Layout TF telecon

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Arabic Layout Task Force Teleconference

03 Nov 2015

    See also: [2]IRC log

       [2] http://www.w3.org/2015/11/03-alreq-irc

Attendees

    Present
           Shervin, mostafa, Behnam, r12a, Najib, Waseem

    Chair
           Shervin

    Scribe
           Mostafa, Shervin

Contents

      * [3]Topics
          1. [4]Status review of action items from previous meeting
          2. [5]Report on IUC39
          3. [6]Recruiting Status
          4. [7]Status report on glossary work from the Arabic and
             Persian teams
          5. [8]Drafting status and prioritization
      * [9]Summary of Action Items
      __________________________________________________________

Status review of action items from previous meeting

    <Shervin>
    [10]http://www.w3.org/International/groups/arabic-layout/track/
    actions/open

      [10] 
http://www.w3.org/International/groups/arabic-layout/track/actions/open

    <Shervin> close action-2

    <trackbot> Closed action-2.

    <Shervin> close action-3

    <trackbot> Closed action-3.

    <Shervin> close action-5

    <trackbot> Closed action-5.

    Mostafa: Najib has added Arabic translations for some of
    glossary items.

    <Shervin> Najib, since you're not on the call, do you have
    anything to mention regarding glossary work you've done?

    … and Sallar did the same for Persian.

    <najib> yes

    <najib> I add commas to separate more translations. Some terms
    might be composed of two or three words.

    <najib> Some terms don't seem relevant "Bicameral"?

    <najib> That's it

    <Shervin> Thanks, Najib.

    <Shervin> ScribeNick: Shervin

    <najib> More translations to be added. Keep action 5 ?

    <scribe> ScribeNick: Mostafa

    Mostafa: Richard mentioned in the emails that we should use
    CLDR to populate the tables. I agree.

    <r12a> public-alreq-admin list is for admin only, technical
    discussion belong on public-i18n-arabic list

    Richard: GitHub issues hase a better discussions platform for
    this work.

    Shervin: GitHub issues doesn’t have excellent support for
    attachments.

    … I suggest to start drafting work on Google Doc and add a
    GitHub issue for dicussion.

    … If you are prepared for a PR, make a PR.

    … About the first draft, I’m not sure tables inside the
    document will work fine, becaue they can be very big.

    <Shervin> close action-6

    <trackbot> Closed action-6.

    … I’m not sure what is the right approach for it, so I’ll see
    and get back to you about it next week.

    Mostafa: These tables are supposed to go the end of the
    document in the appendix.

    <Shervin> Najib, do you have any update for us regarding action
    number 7?

    <najib> Yes. I sent an email with a proposed text.

    <najib>
    [11]http://www.w3c.org.ma/Tests/Alreq/Font-and-Typographical-co
    nsiderations.html

      [11] 
http://www.w3c.org.ma/Tests/Alreq/Font-and-Typographical-considerations.html

    <najib> Just started.

    <Shervin> Thank you, Najib. I check this off on the action
    list.

    <najib> Suggest to continue discussion by mail.

    <Shervin> Najib, we briefly looked over the draft you have for
    font and typo consideration. Do you mind if we change the
    action item you had for adding more content to that?

    <najib> OK

    Richard: Since the work on this issue is minimal, I recommend
    changing the action item’s title to “develop some more text for
    this section.”
    ... I just made that change to this action item #7 in the
    Tracker.

    Shervin: I should put together an email to cover best practices
    for drafting.

    <Shervin> ACTION: Shervin to write an email regarding best
    practices for drafting and draft-related discussions [recorded
    in
    [12]http://www.w3.org/2015/11/03-alreq-minutes.html#action01]

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-16 - Write an email regarding best
    practices for drafting and draft-related discussions [on
    Shervin Afshar - due 2015-11-10].

    Richard: That can cover idea of GitHub issues and the right
    mailing list address to send drafts to.

    <Shervin> ACTION: Shervin to convert Mostafa and Najib's emails
    to Github issues [recorded in
    [13]http://www.w3.org/2015/11/03-alreq-minutes.html#action02]

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-17 - Convert mostafa and najib's
    emails to github issues [on Shervin Afshar - due 2015-11-10].

    Richard: We should take Najib’s and Mostafa’s recent emails and
    turn them into issues.

    Shervin: I can do that.

    <Shervin> close action-8

    <trackbot> Closed action-8.

    Richard: We should have closed action item #8 last week.

    <Shervin> close action-9

    <trackbot> Closed action-9.

    Richard: Action item #9 is now done. The GitHub repo’s
    preferences have been changed to notify the mailing list about
    changes to the repo and its issues.

    <Shervin> close action-11

    <trackbot> Closed action-11.

    Shervin: Action #10 is still going.

    Action #11 is covered in #10, so I close #11.

    <trackbot> Error finding '#11'. You can review and register
    nicknames at
    <[14]http://www.w3.org/International/groups/arabic-layout/track
    /users>.

      [14] http://www.w3.org/International/groups/arabic-layout/track/users

    Shervin: Still working on action item #12.

    These topics mentioned in actoin item #12 (links sent by
    Richard in the last meeting) will be reviewed and added as
    topics.

    <Shervin> Hi Behnam, we started at 7:15 today. Mostly
    processing action items so far.

    <Shervin> close action-13

    <trackbot> Closed action-13.

    Shervin: Action #13 is done. I sent the links to the follks.

    <r12a> ACTION: richard to check with systeam whether ellipsis
    can function like ... for minute taking [recorded in
    [15]http://www.w3.org/2015/11/03-alreq-minutes.html#action03]

    <Shervin>
    [16]http://www.w3.org/International/groups/arabic-layout/track/
    actions/open

      [16] 
http://www.w3.org/International/groups/arabic-layout/track/actions/open

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-18 - Check with systeam whether
    ellipsis can function like ... for minute taking [on Richard
    Ishida - due 2015-11-10].

    <Shervin> close action-1

    <trackbot> Closed action-1.

    <Shervin> close action-4

    <trackbot> Closed action-4.

    <r12a> Behnam, do you know Sarmad Hussain - he may also provide
    expertise on Urdu

    Behnam: I followed action #4. We can close it now, because we
    don’t want them in the weekly, but I’m with touch with them.
    ... I did action #14 too.

    <Shervin> close action-14

    <trackbot> Closed action-14.

    <Shervin> item- 7

Report on IUC39

    <Behnam>
    [17]http://www.unicodeconference.org/39/presentations/S6-T1-Esf
    ahbod-Afshar.pdf

      [17] 
http://www.unicodeconference.org/39/presentations/S6-T1-Esfahbod-Afshar.pdf

    Shervin: I ask Behnam to discuss the report on the IUC 39,
    because he did most of the work.

    Behnam: We got attention of some people from different
    languages and technical areas.
    ... Can we add these kind of documents (talking about the
    slides from IUC 39) as supplementary documents in the GitHub
    repo?

    Richard: Yes. I don’t see why not.

    <Shervin> ACTION: Behnam to create a folder under 'gh-pages'
    branch on Github repository for misc. documents [recorded in
    [18]http://www.w3.org/2015/11/03-alreq-minutes.html#action04]

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-19 - Create a folder under 'gh-pages'
    branch on github repository for misc. documents [on Behnam
    Esfahbod - due 2015-11-10].

    Richard: We can use gh-pages branch in the git repo so that the
    slide will be accessible from GitHub Pages though github.io
    domain name.

    Behnam: We discussed various topics from our list of topic
    keywords.

    Shervin: The intention was to make people aware of our work and
    intrigue their curiosity.
    ... I introduced the TF to different people in the meeting.
    ... One gentleman from IBM said they have someone working on
    Arabic layout issues. I’ll invite him to take a look at our
    work.
    ... Someone from Google showed interest too.
    ... Once we have more text in our document that can be used in
    attracting more attention.

    <Shervin> item- 8

Recruiting Status

    Shervin: I saw that Sallar is active on the document.
    ... Mostafa, do you know if he intents to attend the meetings?

    Mostafa: I don’t know. I sent him an email, but got no
    response.
    ... I contacted Maryam Soft people about Quranic issues.
    ... They are interested in cooperating.

    Behnam: We may not start working on the Qur’an issue yet.

    Shervin: Let’s keep the connection. We might need their help
    later.
    ... Mostafa, do you have any updates about your other contacts?

    Mostafa: Unfortunately, none of them gave any response.

    <Shervin> item- 7

    Richard: I talked with Vivliostyle, a Japanese company, working
    on the eBooks.
    ... I’ll contact them in case they can participate.
    ... I will also talked with German University of Technology in
    Oman when we do the Unicode tutorials, which are now confirmed
    for Feb 2016.

    <Behnam> [19]https://github.com/slang-group/iloominate

      [19] https://github.com/slang-group/iloominate

    Behnam: This is an eBook project. We can use them or their work
    when get to topics about ebooks.
    ... I also found some interested folks on Twitter. They may
    join us for the next meeting.

    <Behnam> Anas Qtiesh

    Behnam: They are based in San Francisco.
    ... I’ll add them to the mailing list and they’ll introduce
    themselves, but wanted to say that Anas has a lot of experience
    with type-setting issues.

Status report on glossary work from the Arabic and Persian teams

    <Shervin>
    [20]https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nSxYKQm_mKroCmxU4fy
    J-g70Eo1_mF89yHZg8YNOuzc/edit?usp=sharing

      [20] 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nSxYKQm_mKroCmxU4fyJ-g70Eo1_mF89yHZg8YNOuzc/edit?usp=sharing

    Shervin: Sallar added some terms for Persian translations and
    Najib and Azzeddine addes some Arabic translations.
    ... We should follow a specific orthography here. Some terms
    are not written correctly.

    <Shervin> Najib, we're talking about glossary work. Do you want
    to add anything to the conversation?

    <najib> I m fine

    <Shervin> Just a second, Najib.

    Wassem: I want to stay in the loop with the glossary work and
    I’ll find a way to put more effort and contribute to the work
    when I’m less busy.

    <najib> Some specific question like orthography could be done
    by email.

    <r12a> or github issues ;-)

    <najib> in a live fashion.

    <najib> YES! github issues

    <Shervin> najib, sure. I agree with that. Is there anything
    else you want to add?

    <najib> Fine :-)

Drafting status and prioritization

    Shervin: I’ll send an email to people to see how I can help to
    speed up the effort on the glossary.
    ... Regarding drafitng: Najib and Mostafa produced some text.
    I’ll move these to GitHub, so that we can continue to discuss
    and work on the text.

    <Shervin> Najib, regarding the drafting that section you're
    working on, is there anything you would like to talk about?

    <najib> Not for the moment.

    Mostafa: Moving to GitHub is a great idea. Will enable us to
    discuss specific issues of each topic and section, like
    Richard’s note about mentioning that we are focusing on Arabic
    and Persian languages only at the moment.

    <najib> right! May be a server problem.

    <najib> I'll check that out with our system team

    <r12a> Najib, [21]https://github.com/w3c/alreq for the issues
    list

      [21] https://github.com/w3c/alreq

    <najib> Thanks

    <r12a> ACTION: Richard to set up new call information for next
    week [recorded in
    [22]http://www.w3.org/2015/11/03-alreq-minutes.html#action05]

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-20 - Set up new call information for
    next week [on Richard Ishida - due 2015-11-10].

Summary of Action Items

    [NEW] ACTION: Behnam to create a folder under 'gh-pages' branch
    on Github repository for misc. documents [recorded in
    [23]http://www.w3.org/2015/11/03-alreq-minutes.html#action04]
    [NEW] ACTION: richard to check with systeam whether ellipsis
    can function like ... for minute taking [recorded in
    [24]http://www.w3.org/2015/11/03-alreq-minutes.html#action03]
    [NEW] ACTION: Richard to set up new call information for next
    week [recorded in
    [25]http://www.w3.org/2015/11/03-alreq-minutes.html#action05]
    [NEW] ACTION: Shervin to convert Mostafa and Najib's emails to
    Github issues [recorded in
    [26]http://www.w3.org/2015/11/03-alreq-minutes.html#action02]
    [NEW] ACTION: Shervin to write an email regarding best
    practices for drafting and draft-related discussions [recorded
    in
    [27]http://www.w3.org/2015/11/03-alreq-minutes.html#action01]

    [End of minutes]

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