[hcg] Hypertext Coordination Group minutes February 10, 2012

http://www.w3.org/2012/02/10-hcg-minutes.html
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   [1]W3C

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         Hypertext Coordination Group (Member) Teleconference
                              10 Feb 2012

   See also: [2]IRC log

      [2] http://www.w3.org/2012/02/10-hcg-irc

Attendees

   Present
          Debbie_Dahl, glazou, ChrisL, janina

   Regrets
          kazuyuki, bert, stephen

   Chair
          Debbie_Dahl

   Scribe
          janina

Contents

     * [3]Topics
         1. [4]public home page
         2. [5]css last calls overview
         3. [6]other topics
     * [7]Summary of Action Items
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   <trackbot> Date: 10 February 2012

   <ChrisL> we now have a wiki

   <ChrisL> [8]http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/HCG/wiki/Main_Page

      [8] http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/HCG/wiki/Main_Page

   <ChrisL> the tracker is still attached to the wrong dbwg though

   <scribe> scribe: janina

   chris: we do now have a wiki ...
   ... not yet populated, but anyone in hcg can write, nd anyone in the
   public can read

   debbi: will keep actions open because we still want media handling
   and discovery

public home page

   debbi: looking for suggestions for the page?
   ... has a current members link that's only team readable

   <ddahl> [9]http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=@@@

      [9] http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=@@@

   chris: this is the old member tracker
   ... i'm trying to put together something that will be world readable

   debbi: has telecon details, list info, history, ...
   ... send a note if you have ideas

   <ChrisL> [10]http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/HCG/track/

     [10] http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/HCG/track/

   chris: OK. tracker now works. I have it switched over.

   <ChrisL> the tracker now works

   debbi: so i'll move the two open actions from the old tracker over

   <ChrisL> ACTION: chris to test tracker [recorded in
   [11]http://www.w3.org/2012/02/10-hcg-minutes.html#action01]

   <ChrisL> trackbot, bye

   <ChrisL> I will keep working on it

css last calls overview

   debbi: we're considering a new hcg policy
   ... asking wg to send a rep to hcg to overview the new specs

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-73 - Test tracker [on Chris Lilley - due
   2012-02-17].

   janina: i like this policy

   chris: also schedule performance group is suggesting that last calls
   asking particular groups to review explain why the request to that
   particular group

   janina: guidance can be helpful esp when a group knows they're
   concerned about certain sections of a spec

   daniel: concerned this may be additional bureaucratic burden
   ... also concerned our hcg participation is so low

   chris: expect more participation as we improve our communications

   daniel: we have a long list of standing regrets

   chris: we did try to find a better time
   ... we will work on finding a designee in wg's to attend if the
   chair's unable
   ... agree the standing list is too long, but we're working on it

   debbi: don't think summary overview need be the chair, could be the
   editor

   daniel: pretty sure most won't come to hcg call

   chris: why?

   daniel: because most don't find it useful

   debbi: the times we address coordination issues, or topics of broad
   concern could be very useful
   ... lc reviews could be one such useful toward helping get things
   resolved
   ... bert suggested chris could overview the css lc's

   daniel css ui -- adding things previously missed, better sizing,
   form elements padding boxes, etc

   daniel: dropped appearance property, though mozilla uses it heavily
   still and may not go away there
   ... it's a 'kitchen sink' for things that make a modern ui and don't
   fit anywhere else
   ... css images ...
   ... various image values and replace contents, gradients
   ... only feature not marked at risk during upcoming cr
   ... gradients most important, we have multiple, perhaps 3 syntax in
   the wild currently
   ... css backgrounds-- incl new properties for 'image slicing'
   ... shadows, border aliases,
   ... pretty well implemented in most browsers
   ... probably will reach req at fast pace
   ... we went back to lc because there were a few issues to fix
   resolved in this week's f2f, and a few to go
   ... pf requested image lc to extend until feb 22, this was accepted
   ... full screen will be a joint effort with web apps

   chris: remind end of lc for ui?

   daniel: feb 14

   chris: i have action from svg on that

   debbi: svg was called out?

   daniel: yes

   debbi: are wai and svg aware they're called out?

   chris: yes

   janina: yes, pf has actions out and will discuss next week
   ... pf trying to be more present and responsive on css because of
   its importance to a11y

other topics

   daniel: vendor prefixes ...

   <ChrisL>
   [12]http://www.glazman.org/weblog/dotclear/index.php?post/2012/02/10
   /Blaming-CSS-WG-is-too-easy-Brendan

     [12]
http://www.glazman.org/weblog/dotclear/index.php?post/2012/02/10/Blaming-CSS
-WG-is-too-easy-Brendan

   <ChrisL> and
   [13]http://www.glazman.org/weblog/dotclear/index.php?post/2012/02/09
   /CALL-FOR-ACTION%3A-THE-OPEN-WEB-NEEDS-YOU-NOW

     [13]
http://www.glazman.org/weblog/dotclear/index.php?post/2012/02/09/CALL-FOR-AC
TION%3A-THE-OPEN-WEB-NEEDS-YOU-NOW

   danieldaniel: while not perfect, vendor prefixes have been helpful,
   and are now at risk with webkit becoming overloaded

   <glazou> back

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: chris to test tracker [recorded in
   [14]http://www.w3.org/2012/02/10-hcg-minutes.html#action01]

   [End of minutes]

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