- From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 23:49:09 +0900
- To: public-hypertext-cg@w3.org
available at:
http://www.w3.org/2012/04/20-hcg-minutes.html
also as text below.
Note.
May 4 HCG call is cancelled, and the next meeting will be
held on May 18.
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[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
- DRAFT -
Hypertext Coordination Group Teleconference
20 Apr 2012
[2]Agenda
[2]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-hypertext-cg/2012AprJun/0001.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2012/04/20-hcg-irc
Attendees
Present
Chris, Steven, Doug, Debbie, Janina, Kaz
Regrets
Chair
Chris
Scribe
Kaz
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]actions
2. [6]last calls and cr
* [7]Summary of Action Items
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<trackbot> Date: 20 April 2012
<ChrisL> ACTION: chris to test action-73 [recorded in
[8]http://www.w3.org/2012/04/20-hcg-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2 - Test action-73 [on Chris Lilley -
due 2012-04-27].
<ChrisL> action-2?
<trackbot> ACTION-2 -- Chris Lilley to test action-73 -- due
2012-04-27 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [9]https://www.w3.org/MarkUp/HCG/track/actions/2
[9] https://www.w3.org/MarkUp/HCG/track/actions/2
<ChrisL> Debbie the links in the agenda are to the old tracker
:)
<scribe> scribe: Kaz
<scribe> scribenick: kaz
actions
<ChrisL> old tracker open actions
<ChrisL>
[10]https://www.w3.org/MarkUp/CoordGroup/track/actions/open
[10] https://www.w3.org/MarkUp/CoordGroup/track/actions/open
chris: discussion on media handling
action-71?
<trackbot> ACTION-71 does not exist
-> [11]https://www.w3.org/MarkUp/CoordGroup/track/actions/71
old-action-71
[11] https://www.w3.org/MarkUp/CoordGroup/track/actions/71
chris: new action for the new tracker?
debbie: opinions?
... the discussion is active on the HTML WG mailing list
kaz: gave some update
debbie: maybe it would make sense to send a message to the HCG
list about the discussion
chris: ok
<scribe> ACTION: dahl to send a message on media handling
discussion to the HCG listg [recorded in
[12]http://www.w3.org/2012/04/20-hcg-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-3 - Send a message on media handling
discussion to the HCG list [on Deborah Dahl - due 2012-04-27].
chris: next old action is for Debbie again
<ChrisL>
[13]https://www.w3.org/MarkUp/CoordGroup/track/actions/72
[13] https://www.w3.org/MarkUp/CoordGroup/track/actions/72
debbie: still good to do
... "organize a discovery session after HCG is public"
<scribe> ACTION: dahl to organize a discovery session in June
[recorded in
[14]http://www.w3.org/2012/04/20-hcg-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-4 - Organize a discovery session in
June [on Deborah Dahl - due 2012-04-27].
<ChrisL> old action 73
[15]https://www.w3.org/MarkUp/CoordGroup/track/actions/73
[15] https://www.w3.org/MarkUp/CoordGroup/track/actions/73
chris: those are the remaining actions on the old tracker
<ChrisL> ok so the old items are all closed now
<ChrisL> action-1?
<trackbot> ACTION-1 -- Chris Lilley to see which tracker is on
irc nowadays -- due 2012-03-16 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [16]https://www.w3.org/MarkUp/HCG/track/actions/1
[16] https://www.w3.org/MarkUp/HCG/track/actions/1
<ChrisL> close action-1
<trackbot> ACTION-1 See which tracker is on irc nowadays closed
<ChrisL> action-2?
<trackbot> ACTION-2 -- Chris Lilley to test action-73 -- due
2012-04-27 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [17]https://www.w3.org/MarkUp/HCG/track/actions/2
[17] https://www.w3.org/MarkUp/HCG/track/actions/2
<ChrisL> close action-2
<trackbot> ACTION-2 Test action-73 closed
last calls and cr
chris: doug, your topic?
<shepazu> [18]http://www.w3.org/News/2012#entry-9425
[18] http://www.w3.org/News/2012#entry-9425
<shepazu> [19]http://www.w3.org/TR/WebIDL/
[19] http://www.w3.org/TR/WebIDL/
doug: WebIDL CR
... defining interface for Java binding
... many specs use it
... the problem has been that while it's not done many specs
use it
... the exit criteria is a bit unusual
... not meant to be implemented in UAs
... Microsoft pretty heavily creates descriptions to transform
those
... for the code base
... but not something that an author would know/use
chris: something implementers could use?
-> [20]http://www.w3.org/TR/WebIDL/#cr-exit exit criteria
section
[20] http://www.w3.org/TR/WebIDL/#cr-exit
doug: you can use stabs, e.g., written by C language
... one of the Widgets spec, e.g., selector, uses WebIDL
... HTML5 as well
[ geolocation also uses it ]
doug: many groups use WebIDL
... they care about the status of the WebIDL spec
... more precisely describe JavaScript usage
... description on JavaScript binding is important for
interoperability
steven: similar to XHTML modularization
... we always have long discussion
doug: XML stacs, etc. are also not directly implemented
... maybe Liam knows better
<ChrisL> charmod might be another example
doug: we talked to Ralph about what the CR exit criteria should
be
chris: suggestion on changing the HCG call time
... more use of email list
... it would be faster to wait 2weeks for the next HCG call
... open to change the call time again, though
debbie: as the public ML, can people post?
chris: think any one who has W3C account can post
... will check the situation
<ChrisL> ACTION: chris to check on public-hypertext-cg posting
permissions [recorded in
[21]http://www.w3.org/2012/04/20-hcg-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-5 - Check on public-hypertext-cg
posting permissions [on Chris Lilley - due 2012-04-27].
debbie: it would be good if WG/IG members who are concerned
post back to the HCG list on the Media handling discussion
doug: probably going to cross-post
... but many people don't like it
... what is the advantage to cross-post to HCG?
chris: if there is things happening to multiple groups,
cross-posting would be useful
... not encouraging to do that
... by putting HCG, people who don't check the original list
can join the discussion
doug: there is WHAT-WG list
... HCG or some reincarnation of HCG
... people can say this should be done here, etc.
... wondering how to make the discussion more useful
debbie: how do you make people know about discussions
doug: link on the front page
... "if you have technical questions, send emails here", etc.
... I know there are a lot of people who think WHATWG page is
more useful
... giving people an entry point would be useful
... maybe not the HCG, though
... an umbrella activity
chris: one line status report would be fine
... it's helpful
<ChrisL> chairs list is w3c member-only though
debbie: regarding technical questions, maybe more appropriate
to discussion on the Chairs list
doug: it doesn't have to a "group" but could be just a list
chris: next meeting in two weeks?
Steven: regrets
janina: HTML WG f2f
chris: me as well
... do we want to skip the week?
debbie: fine
<ChrisL> May 4 hcg cancelled, next meeting May 18
[ adjourned ]
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: chris to check on public-hypertext-cg posting
permissions [recorded in
[22]http://www.w3.org/2012/04/20-hcg-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: chris to test action-73 [recorded in
[23]http://www.w3.org/2012/04/20-hcg-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: dahl to organize a discovery session in June
[recorded in
[24]http://www.w3.org/2012/04/20-hcg-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: dahl to send a message on media handling
discussion to the HCG listg [recorded in
[25]http://www.w3.org/2012/04/20-hcg-minutes.html#action02]
[End of minutes]
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