- From: Deborah Dahl <dahl@conversational-technologies.com>
- Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 10:16:19 -0500
- To: <public-hypertext-cg@w3.org>
These are the minutes of the February 25 Hypertext Coordination Group call. [1]W3C [1] http://www.w3.org/ - DRAFT - Hypertext Coordination Group Teleconference 25 Feb 2011 [2]Agenda [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-html-cg/2011JanMar/0055 See also: [3]IRC log [3] http://www.w3.org/2011/02/25-hcg-irc Attendees Present PLH, Steven, Debbie, Doug, Kaz, Bert, Paul Regrets Chair Debbie_Dahl Scribe Kaz Contents * [4]Topics 1. [5]action items 2. [6]HTML5 and WebIDL 3. [7]Registry discussion 4. [8]XBL discussion * [9]Summary of Action Items _________________________________________________________ action items action-64? <trackbot> ACTION-64 -- Chris Lilley to ask for a Wiki for HCG -- due 2011-02-18 -- OPEN <trackbot> [10]http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/CoordGroup/track/actions/64 [10] http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/CoordGroup/track/actions/64 debbie: Chris said he would talk with Doug about this doug: no he has not yet contacted me ... will send him an email debbie: ok HTML5 and WebIDL plh: geolocation moving to PR, CSS Selecter, etc. are blocked <paulc> We have external groups with references to HTML5 that also have this problem. plh: HTML5 will not get Rec before 2014 ... need to remove normative reference <paulc> For example I attended a JTC1 SC34 meeting on EPUB. EPUB 3 is moving to refer to the W3C specs like HTML5 and CSS 2/3. <inserted> debbie: can we move normative references to WG Note? plh: 20 different references to HTML5 <ddahl> plh: could cut and paste from HTML5 spec to other specs, HTML WG could publish a Note <plh> [11]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-perf/2011Feb/0036 .html [11] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-perf/2011Feb/0036.html plh: Web Performance WG discussion ... 23 different references [ the above message is on "Blocker for PR: links to HTML5 spec" ] plh: we can't move HTML5 to REC right now paulc: I attended a JTC1 SC34 meeting on EPUB. ... I think Mike Smith has talked with them [ EPUB 3 is moving to refer to the W3C specs like HTML5 and CSS 2/3 ] paulc: Microsoft has many external standardization works ... e.g., DLNA ... what I explained about the HTML5 LC schedule was ... they want a stable spec to refer to plh: there are specs which need reference to a stable version of WebIDL ... there was a TC-39 meeting 2 or 3 months ago ... they reached some idea there ... did not have all the features we needed ... plenty of specs which refer to WebIDL... debbie: cut&paste (moving to WG Note) sounds good? paul: only one another solution ... XQuery, etc. solution ... simultaneously done as REC plh: we could move all the specs to PR <paulc> What is the Director's view on normative references? Can they be one step behind the referencing document? debbie: 5 years ago, IETF cut&pasted MRCP spec <ddahl> MRCP used NLSML, but now we have EMMA <ddahl> there are two specs that do basically the same thing, but it hasn't caused many problems in practice paulc: what is W3C's view on normative references? ... in the W3C, one step prior to REC is PR plh: we might be able to let it go ... but have not got Director's dicision paulc: e.g., the relation between SQL and COBOL was little ... but the relation between HTML5 and Web Notification is intimate, and the risk is high <paulc> interesting problem! debbie: any other comments? paulc: we're our own enemy... kaz: today's minutes should be public or not? plh: ok for public ... web performance message referred to is also public debbie: there was another example of VoiceXML blocked by SRGS etc. ... asked people to implement plh: Web Performance has 2 implementations paulc: Web Performance group has not reached conclusion ... HTML group can cut&paste the normative reference part ... can I go skiing this weekend ;) Registry discussion paulc: another topic ... registry discussion plh: I was invited to registry discussion a few weeks ago ... W3C is considering to create a registry within W3C ... we have many media types which are not yet registered with IANA ... various reasons ... Larry Masinter got an action item to consider this topic paulc: discussion at Prague IETF conference as well ... March 27-April 1 ... one week after XML Prague ... so having HCG discussion after that (in April) would be better debbie: April 8? <paulc> [12]http://www.ietf.org/meeting/80/index.html [12] http://www.ietf.org/meeting/80/index.html paulc: the above is link to IETF meeting ... pretty controversial topic ... would W3C consider to hold a registry? ... IETF procedure/timeline is too long ... that's why somebody like Larry and somebody like plh should be involved debbie: sounds like what we need to do is we invite Larry to April 8 HCG call paulc: that's a draft plan debbie: and plh, who regularly participates in the call, as well ... Kaz, you want to invite somebody from VBWG? kaz: James Barnett, the SCXML editor, and Dan Burnett, the SSML 1.1 editor (and VBWG chair) ... because SCXML's type attribute needs some registry, and SSML 1.1 expects a registry at IANA XBL discussion debbie: XBL discussion? doug: talked with Art Barstow and no problem ... the core XBL spec can be defined by the WebApps WG, and other groups who need more functionality can simply extend that core spec in their own specification ... that doesn't mean the extension can automatically get implementations <ddahl> we didn't actually confirm that we agreed to make the minutes public, are there any objections? [ adjourned ] Summary of Action Items [End of minutes] _________________________________________________________
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