Hydra W3C Community Group Telecon Minutes for 2017-05-01

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   http://www.hydra-cg.com/minutes/2017-05-01/

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Hydra W3C Community Group Telecon Minutes for 2017-05-01

Agenda:
  https://www.w3.org/community/hydra/wiki/Conference_Calls
Topics:
  1. Discuss Karol's PRs #113 #114 #115 #116 #117
Resolutions:
  1. Merge PR #113, #114, and #115
Chair:
  Markus Lanthaler
Scribe:
  elf Pavlik
Present:
  elf Pavlik, Markus Lanthaler, Karol Szczepański, Tomasz 
  Pluskiewicz
Audio:
  http://www.hydra-cg.org/minutes/2017-05-01/audio.mp3


elf Pavlik: present+ elf-pavlik
elf Pavlik is scribing.

Topic: Discuss Karol's PRs #113 #114 #115 #116 #117

present+ karol-szczepanski
present+ tpluskiewicz
Markus Lanthaler:  thank you karol-szczepanski for your PRs
Karol Szczepański:  i consider them ready and they stay open for 
  discussion
  ... i plan to craft couple more PRs
  ... i already took into account all the comments which i 
  received in first few days
  ... so far no one reviewed #117
Markus Lanthaler:  I would be fine with merging those already 
  reviewed
  ... good job karol-szczepanski
Markus Lanthaler: zakim, ack
I don't understand 'ack', markus
Tomasz Pluskiewicz:  agrees, merge them (those which received 
  review)
  ... later we can follow up with more PRs proposing changes
Markus Lanthaler: zakim, ack tpluskiewicz
I see no one on the speaker queue
elf Pavlik: +1
Tomasz Pluskiewicz:  i will prepare PRs when I see need to change 
  something, this may make it easier to manage
Markus Lanthaler:  should we vote on merging first 3 PRs?

PROPOSAL: Merge PR #113, #114, and #115

elf Pavlik: +1
Markus Lanthaler: +1
Tomasz Pluskiewicz: +1
Karol Szczepański: +!

RESOLUTION: Merge PR #113, #114, and #115

Markus Lanthaler:  I'll go ahead and merge them after the telecon
  ... other one's just need review on github or we should discuss 
  something now?
Karol Szczepański:  i would prefer to get some proper review on 
  github
Markus Lanthaler:  how this will drive further actions?
  ... we have some use cases and should discuss which of them 
  current spec already covers
  ... regarding client development, i don't have time myself but 
  if someone want to spearhead it I welcome it very much
Karol Szczepański:  one of your comments on PR, related to you 
  preference of generic Use Cases
  ... all UC which I created were more specific
  ... I see benefits in working with more specific use cases
  ... they can lead to solutions to real specific problems
Markus Lanthaler:  to clarify, i didn't mean to do all generic, 
  other ones seamed to have generic use cases on just one i 
  commented on had specific one
Karol Szczepański:  I think about more use cases
  ... getting deeper some Use Cases would stay specific for 
  particular domains
  ... eg. calendars
  ... generic UCs could miss some cases
Markus Lanthaler:  what do you think about what i proposed, to 
  have generic use case and for it specific ones
  ... we can make new PRs for that
Tomasz Pluskiewicz: +1 on future PRs to add generic UC 
  descriptions
elf Pavlik: +1
Markus Lanthaler:  people reading it may get impression that it 
  only covers those specific UCs
  ... having generic UCs mentioned can prevent that
Markus Lanthaler:  would you like to discuss some of the UCs ?
  ... it doesn't seem that Ruben will join so we shouldn't 
  discuss arch diagram
Markus Lanthaler: zakim, ack tpluskiewicz
I see no one on the speaker queue
Tomasz Pluskiewicz:  new requests still need review, we could 
  send email to mailing list to remind others about them
  ... I have one UC related to #100 (IRI templates & operations)
Markus Lanthaler:  are you sure you talk about #100 ?
Tomasz Pluskiewicz:  #118
Markus Lanthaler: 
  https://github.com/HydraCG/Specifications/issues/118
  ... they all stay linked
  ... I'll prepare PR related to it
Markus Lanthaler: zakim, ack karol-szczepanski
I see no one on the speaker queue
Karol Szczepański:  i was also thinking about it, and i also 
  don't find it in current spec very clear how to handle such UCs
  ... i'll let tpluskiewicz submit PR for that
Markus Lanthaler:  anyone plans to work on something? let's 
  mention it so we avoid possible duplication of efforts
Tomasz Pluskiewicz:  I'll just focus on this one (related to 
  #118)
Markus Lanthaler:  from my side I don't see anything to discuss, 
  any proposals to add to today's agenda, or should we finish early
Karol Szczepański:  I will take time in next 2 weeks to write 
  more UCs, but I also want to think how we should use UCs
  ... we could try to make some kind of roadmap for next couple 
  of weeks
Markus Lanthaler:  I'd like to have some concrete proposals for 
  changes in the spec, discuss them during telecons and vote on 
  them
  ... what would do you think karol-szczepanski ?
Karol Szczepański:  adding more examples on the specification 
  page
Tomasz Pluskiewicz:  we could make it the other way around, to 
  link to UCs from the spec
  ... keeping spec shorter
Markus Lanthaler:  you need to decide if it stands as normative 
  or informative reference
everything normative needs to stay in the spec itself
Tomasz Pluskiewicz:  UCs act as informative (non-normative) 
  references
Markus Lanthaler:  we should at lest publish them on HydraCG 
  website
  ... i can take Action item
Markus Lanthaler: zakim, ack elf-pavlik
I see no one on the speaker queue
elf Pavlik:  I noted some specs like LDP have separate use case 
  documents [scribe assist by Markus Lanthaler]
elf Pavlik:  That way use cases can be referenced without being 
  included in the spec [scribe assist by Markus Lanthaler]
Markus Lanthaler: ... but just referenced from the spec
Markus Lanthaler:  fine if it acts just as additional 
  (educational) material
Markus Lanthaler:  anything else we should discuss today ?
  ... let's adjourn for today and finish early, i will use that 
  time to review PR #116 and #117
Markus Lanthaler:  thank your everyone, let's meet again in 2 
  weeks
Markus Lanthaler: zakim, list attendees
As of this point the attendees have been elf-pavlik, 
  karol-szczepanski, tpluskiewicz, markus

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