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Re: Reinventing Web applications

From: Martynas Jusevičius <martynas@graphity.org>
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 00:28:07 +0200
Message-ID: <CAE35Vmw=vYxD0tQ-CtEx3n8Awvx=tZX+Uio5Bj=osgnXOVsqEA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
Cc: public-hydra@w3.org, public-declarative-apps@w3.org
Kingsley, you put it beautifully :) Exactly what I mean.

On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 12:16 AM, Kingsley Idehen
<kidehen@openlinksw.com> wrote:
> On 6/23/14 4:56 PM, Markus Lanthaler wrote:
>>
>> It's certainly a fuzzy line but for me a Web specification is something
>> that is exposed on the Web and used by different independent systems without
>> central coordination.
>
>
> Not really. It's an application that leverages HTTP for interaction.
> "Exposure on the Web" is inaccurate. Taking that position leads people to
> assume that whenever you build so called "Web apps" they have to be publicly
> available over the World Wide Web. In fact, this is all about webby data and
> webby interactions.
>
>
>>   This is not really the case here AFAICT. The description will be used by
>> the processor (the server) internally. It uses it to know how to server the
>> data it has. The client, AFAICT, doesn't see this description (and doesn't
>> need to see it).
>
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> A client and server can have their interactions driven by hypermedia based
> content, accessible from HTTP locations. The nature of the interactions can
> be progressively understood as interactions and data state transitions
> evolve.
>
> Ultimately, a client needs to understand what's contained in a payload.
> Likewise, so does a server. RDF enables machines (be them client, servers,
> or peers) to understand the hypermedia payloads that are encountered during
> message exchanges. No different to how we actually work in the real-world.
>
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>
> Regards,
>
> Kingsley Idehen
> Founder & CEO
> OpenLink Software
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