- From: Ruben Verborgh <ruben.verborgh@ugent.be>
- Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 14:24:25 +0200
- To: Gregg Kellogg <gregg@greggkellogg.net>
- Cc: Markus Lanthaler <markus.lanthaler@gmx.net>, public-hydra@w3.org
Hi Gregg, Of course not criticizing your opinion, but could I ask for some clarifications? > Just looking at it from a pragmatics perspective, when I retrieve a collection, I want that to include the first page of members, at least. Agree. > So, that resource should include everything I need to know about the collection: the number of items in the collection Okay. So this is a property of the collection. What subject do you use to describe it? > This could allow the meta-collection properties to be recorded under a separate subject from that resource, or not. Note that I was originally not talking about meta-collection properties, but collection properties. As in: "collection itemcount 2034" and "page itemcount 100". > If it is, and we're trying to adhere to the principles of Linked Data, then that subject should have an IRI, which could be a fragment identifier relative to the first page. Practically speaking, this seems a little upside down Yes, but why would we need to choose a fragment identifier relative to the first page? > do take Markus' assertion that a page of a collection can be likened to a specific rdf:List, but that really just says that all pages are collections And this is where I see a contradiction: if each page is a collection (which is an idea I like), what does hydra:totalItems then mean? hydra:totalItems for a collection means the number of items in the collection. So hydra:totalItems for a page should give me 100 then (items per page), not 2034 (the number of items in the whole collection)? This is where to modeling breaks for me. > IMO, it would be simpler if we just side-step this whole thing and just reference the first page and simply describe properties on that page resource and not introduce another subject for its own sake. So what would a PageCollection be to you? A Page, a Collection, both, or a hybrid? Best, Ruben
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