- From: Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2023 15:30:42 +1000
- To: INTERNETSOCIETY-openforum@connectedcommunity.org, public-humancentricai@w3.org
- Cc: The Peace infrastructure Project <peace-infrastructure-project@googlegroups.com>
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Hi All, I’ve been participating a bit in IGF, whilst also watching other parts of it on YouTube. FWIW: IGF on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@igf List of sessions: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JEspoS6w3CF79t7pWAz0KkH4UCvbAQZnYto0P5ZRgyw/edit?usp=sharing The announcement by Vint & Co about “Human Centric Internet” was a surprise, historically he was more focused on People Centered Internet; whilst i was more focused on Human Centric content layers; ie: human centric web, human centric licensing for software tooling & Human Centric AI. In anycase, Whilst very much welcomed; I do wonder what will become of the use of this term… So, here I am… continuing to do my best, some years after defining the term via related W3C works, etc… noting also, the temporal alignment that has been in play with myData efforts over the years… There is soon another open-session to highlight the SIG Topics proposed, including what I’ve sought to bring about for Human Centric AI.. This topic is extremely dense. There’s alot to it, technically a lot has been done; but more needs to be done, and alot more needs to be done in the social domain. The objective of this SIG, from my POV is to bring about the tooling needed to instantiate Human Centric AI; which instrumentally requires, the means for a personal / private software agent to process information - locally - for many; and for those without, via a trusted infrastructure provider. I called this ‘information banking’ infrastructure between 2000-12; but then, ‘knowledge banking’ infrastructure - which has various requirements, indeed, i a hopeful ISOC chapters will be foundational providers within many different jurisdictions; as to support the human rights needs of the most vulnerable, but it seems we are a long way from this potential future outcome… And indeed also; that these works via ISOC may compliment & support W3C related works & that if successful, we may then use ‘human centric ai’ infrastructure, to promote humanitarian works online; where people collaborate / cooperatively work with one-another to support / produce, humanitarian tech / knowledge, outcomes… support peace infrastructure projects, and our means to deliver SDGs, etc.. As somewhat considered by an earlier, pre-covid, SIG application effort (that was incomplete). https://drive.google.com/file/d/1o1FrGelPmWfA6olhKik--UzSBGH1Rz4o/view?usp=sharing But today, I struggled once again to get consideration about the importance of figuring out how best to support ‘values credentials’ and in particular, those relating to human rights instruments. It is strange and quite frustrating to me, when i’m in human rights groups in forums like IGF or WSIS, and i ask about how to get these works done - and it seems, they really don’t understand… https://soundcloud.com/ubiquitous-au/my-question-human-rights-instruments-for-digital-wallets-valuescredentials It seems as though, the major focus is in-fact a major global thin-client model, perhaps with overly expensive edge devices; as so few members of our human family discuss, how it should be governed. SO, that’s not what i’m looking for; i’m looking to ensure people have the means to materially support their own human rights, in courts of law, with the useful benefit of the evidence about their lives, their experiences… even if they’re made homeless, due to some problem, that needs peaceful means for resolution. Even for refugees, or alleged refugees.. That is, until the evidence is reviewed. So; we are a people of many different places, languages, cultures, cohorts, views, beliefs, systems of law, etc… around our world; but some of the instruments that we all know of, and could reasonably be held to comply with in a court of law; if associated with agreements between one-another, are the values outlined in the body of human rights instruments. But these instruments have been made long before broadband, long before the great lockdown that occurred as early credential use-cases were implemented world-wide… so, the way those instruments are worded, they generally seek to get governments or ‘states’ to agree to those principles; not people, not one-another… So, imagine if we all had our own domain names; and those domain names, had the tools needed so that we managed our own ‘addressbooks’; and that, the way we form relationships, whether they be ‘introductions’ or ‘invitations’, with one-another needs some form of agreement; as there is no ‘thing’ like a facebook terms of service - this doesn’t need ‘social media platforms’, its simply between one-another. People are then allowed to have relationships between one-another, without facebook, or similar… There’s some old papers about this sort of thing; https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1lpeoEFowRcq3VTAp5LH6cFN251O9g9iE https://web.archive.org/web/20130122051820/http://jeffsayre.com/2010/09/15/web-3-0-smartups-the-social-web-and-the-web-of-data/ I’m now working on a browser-extension to extend ‘the web’ to support the ‘social layer’. https://github.com/WebCivics/SocialWeb-WebExtensionDev-v4/blob/main/valuecredentials/flow.md These 'agreements' help to define how the 'data' or commons associated to the relationship, is managed, noting that relationships change overtime - forging memories, as are important constituencies to our 'personal ontology' and related informatics of life. So, whilst the semantic model for defining declaratively the logic associated with the meaning of terms; so that logical programming can be used to help identify and then support discussion about any breaches that may occur to agreements made between people via systems of agreements that changes overtime; there nonetheless needs to be work to transform these important instruments from statements that are defined as seeking the ‘state’ protect these rights of us all; to, what i consider to be a supportive ecosystem, where people are able to make declarations that they intend to support those values between one-another… but who, is it, that will, 1. Define the language 2. Provide the URIs where the ontologies are thereby hosted? Ie: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tJkhVcIqCSdzP6mZ3UxAB8za2z3jARofZF0M9DiUdfw/edit#gid=224570733 Its now been a few years of trying to find out, and its still difficult to find the ‘interested party’, perhaps, if anyone is at the IGF and they could get someone to follow-up or find out; that would be great, if not, Then consider this to be one of the ‘to-do’ items; that I think, would be good for the ISOC Human Centric AI SIG could get stuck into… at least, to make some recommendations in one or more languages only, if not more… Here are some examples; re: Universal Declaration of Human Rights Article 12 Original: No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks. vs. The Parties Agree to make best efforts, by their own dealings and decisions, to ensure that no one is subjected to arbitrary interference of their privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon their honour and reputation. The Parties Agree that everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks. Article 20 Original: 1. Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association. 2. No one may be compelled to belong to an association. Vs. 1. The Parties Agree to support one another right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association. 2. The Parties recognize and agree that No one may be compelled to belong to an association. Article 24 Original: Everyone has the right to rest and leisure, including reasonable limitation of working hours and periodic holidays with pay. VS. The Parties recognize and support the right of others to rest and leisure, including reasonable limitation of working hours and periodic holidays with pay. An english example is https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1q6Cl__FbUddtKtBPxw2KDviO_PEl7Ti-XYZOT1EQM14/edit# A VERY QUICKLY produced ISOC related example; https://github.com/WebCivics/isoc-hc-ai-sig-prep/tree/main/ontology A list of instruments identified some time ago: https://www.humancentricai.org/Our-Values.html There’s also some older work: https://github.com/WebCivics/ontologies but it still needs alot of work. Fundamentally also, there’s some work on natural language ontologies; to improve Human Centric AI supports, that is hoped to be done - thought to be complementary to these works… In my view, these sorts of works also thereby extend to many other ‘safety protocol’ related works, including ‘agent labelling’ (ie: being able to denote the works / involvement of software agents) I hope this provides a little more information about the sorts of things I hope to work through inter-nationally, such as to produce the humanitarian infrastructure needed at this digitally transformative stage of humanitarian development. I hope we can get the basics done, as to then uplift our capacity to make progress with respect to much needed peace infrastructure for future medicinal earth outcomes; and foundations for humanitarian sociosphere / biosphere, advancement. But at the moment; i'm still quite frustrated by the apparent inability to figure out how to better engage with others, as to improve support for our means to make use of UN Human Rights values, in our electronic agreements with one-another; which i know is different to platforms where agreements are issued, like mandates, but i don't think that should be the only way of defining the 'digital transformation' of agreements. so, as noted. frustrated, any means for anyone to make progress in this area is very much appreciated; noting lastly, the prior work of unicode to provide the UDHR in XML https://github.com/unicode-org/udhr Kind Regards, Timothy Holborn
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