Re: update & consideration re: chair

Hello everyone,

Timothy, thank you for your efforts and contributions in this vast field of
human perception; an always seemly to increase world wide web, and the
common needings for industry and technology development. History keeps
telling us that it is far from easy to push forward development during
disruptive periods.

I have read most of your e-mails, here and in the ai-kr group, even though
I must assume I still need more time to study it carefully. But, regarding
the 'human protection', thus keeping humanity at the center, not at the
edge of the Web, like servitors, only feeding the web, but being fed
throughout this unbelievable richful ecosystem of information and insights;
is, in my humble opinion, something very, permit me to say, human, and
prospective, as one day or another we'll need to assemble and put together
some foundationals protocols, in order to keep evolution and development
to grow indiscriminately.

At the moment, I am working on a personal project, related to knowledge
representation, a common human way of thinking and realizing, and Society.
Even if my periodicity is still very sparse, I would be glad to contribute
to this movement you're presenting.

Please, let me know your guess about how the forces could be unified, and
if you want to discuss something in specific.

Maybe *creativity *could be a point of st.art.

Best wishes,

Em ter., 22 de ago. de 2023 às 16:35, Timothy Holborn <
timothy.holborn@gmail.com> escreveu:

> Hi All,
>
> Firstly -
>
> NB:
> https://www.millennium-project.org/transition-from-artificial-narrow-to-artificial-general-intelligence-governance/
>
>
> i have noted with the author; that he should have asked TimBL
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkjyCPuTKPw
>
> jahendler, the web science crew, etc...
>
> and have been encouraged to provide a list; yet, i'd encourage any such
> luminaries, to reach out directly.
>
> *CONSIDERATIONS*
>
> I've had some fairly significant setbacks, which have dramatically
> impacted my ability to progress in this group.  Its been quite upsetting.
>
> Human Centric (AI); as a theory, has progressed alot since i initially
> spoke about it, in terms of credentials (now often termed 'digital
> identity') and RWW (solid) some years ago[1]; noting, of course, that the
> underpinning tech was always designed using AI tech - so the term was
> implicit, until later.
>
> Yet, my experience in recent post-covid WSIS2023 + UN discussions, led me
> to believe it was important to progress additional works in this area;
> thereby leading to the creation of the group.
>
> My hope was to establish the requirements to uplift the resources
> available to support the development of, what i consider to be, these most
> important works...  but sadly, some barriers have come-up that appear to be
> beyond my means to overcome in a timely manner.
>
> Consequently,
>
> Whilst i'm working to figure out a work-around; which is likely to be
> about a crypto based method for addressing underlying 'digital slavery'
> issues that otherwise disaffect people seeking to work on good things for
> the betterment of humanity, as individuals; yet also,
>
> The other consequence is that i do not think that i'm best equipped to do
> honour to the role of chairperson for this most important group, and
> thereby believe the most honourable thing for me to do is to step-down.
> Doing so, will also help free me up to engage in more adversarial
> engagement, in the pursuit of supporting outcomes to support human rights,
> and promote the development of peace infrastructure projects; but that is
> quite different to the general methodologies otherwise exemplified in
> recent years...
>
> Yet also; whilst my capacity to do better is diminished, I am not seeking
> to abandon the group.
>
> I am thankful for the support provided by colleagues to help get the thing
> started.
>
> So,
>
> if i do not hear back from people, i'll change the settings to resign in a
> few days time..  If the suggestion is that I'm better off maintaining the
> role, even though I can't do much atm; then, that's ok with me too.
>
> whilst i'm able to do more than nothing; should that be the
> alternative...  I'm also not at all confident that I'll be able to do
> enough, or that I'll have any resources to help me do much at all; in this
> very complex space, that needs more minds.
>
> in terms of this shift; what i'm looking into, is how to create solutions
> for a 'medicinal earth', so basically what that means is that i'm looking
> at how to form a 'human centric web', to support AI processes whereby the
> knowledge of biosphere fauna, flora; and their medicinal qualities, can be
> employed by persons as a means to fabric the blend between various
> traditional medicinal systems; common-sense, privacy; and the means to
> promote a different form of healthcare, that changes the way people life,
> what they eat, and how they use solar energy - to plant their medicines,
> rather than getting scripts with alternative ideological solutions built
> around human identity being defined by 'their' wallet.
>
> to achieve this; there needs to be a way to pay people fairly for useful
> work, which given the implications of my failed assumptions; is likely to
> be via extending older works on payments, baking 'social' into the browser
> (social web / part of the old definition for Web 3.0); and looking to
> create a new method that way, which means people who contribute aren't
> expected to...  well..  human rights solutions, can't be built with
> 'digital slavery' business models; imo, that just won't work, not to
> produce 'reality check, tech'.
>
> Yet, I do not see this method as being something that results in the
> entire solution being about providing the support this group hoped to
> progress, around interoperability, safety protocols, etc...  Perhaps it
> will be once those tools are made; but they're not created yet, and time is
> ticking away whilst international efforts are underway to define political
> solutions, based upon the technology options that are available today.
>
> So,
>
> If there's a volunteer - please let me / us know... If there is someone to
> hand the torch to, I'd be happy to support any such process...
>
> I have attached a link to the slides about "ecash"[2], and if you're
> interested in seeing the slides about my 'medicinal earth' strategy /
> works; let me know, I think it would be too controversial to post publicly.
>
> https://twitter.com/0rf/status/1691957955250331924
>
> I still believe there is a bunch of very important work to get done.. but
> i don't know how to fund / resource it.  seems like innovation is required,
> to figure that problem out, before being able to do more.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy Holborn.
>
>
> [1]
> https://www.w3.org/Search/Mail/Public/advanced_search?keywords=%22Human+Centric%22&resultsperpage=100&sortby=date-asc
>
> [2]
> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/16EHGn8FBdg27rhuBUDPt2vpp3RJMD3vK99XbBAqTcRk/edit#slide=id.p
>
>


-- 
Gabriel Lopes
*Interoperability as Jam's sessions!*
*Each system emanating the music that crosses itself, instrumentalizing
scores and ranges...*
*... of Resonance, vibrations, information, data, symbols, ..., Notes.*

*How interoperable are we with the Music the World continuously offers to
our senses?*
*Maybe it depends on our foundations...?*