- From: Robert Leif <rleif@rleif.com>
- Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 08:00:18 -0700
- To: "'Noah Mendelsohn'" <nrm@arcanedomain.com>, <public-html-xml@w3.org>
- Cc: "'Larry Masinter'" <LMM@acm.org>, "'Norman Walsh'" <ndw@nwalsh.com>
- Message-ID: <02b701cc5837$6313cf70$293b6e50$@rleif.com>
I would like to add the following sentence. Since XHTML5 has not been completely specified, no conclusion concerning interfacing it with XML can presently be made. Thank you. Bob Leif -----Original Message----- From: public-html-xml-request@w3.org [mailto:public-html-xml-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Noah Mendelsohn Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 12:48 PM To: public-html-xml@w3.org Cc: Larry Masinter Subject: Suggested revised text for HTML/XML report intro At one point recently I mentioned to Norm that I thought some of the concerns about the scope of our effort, and the lack of deeper proposals for improvements, might be addressed by improvements to the introduction of the report. Norm asked me to suggest text, and I offer this as a starting point. It should be clear from the first and last paragraphs where it fits in the existing text. ================================================== Against the backdrop of this tension, the TAG formed this Task Force in order to explore how interoperability between HTML and XML could be improved, and this report sets out the results of the Task Force's work. The Task Force explored some approaches that would provide higher levels of compatibility than are discussed in the sections below. For example, consideration was given to proposals to produce new versions of the XML specification that would retain significant compatibility with XML as deployed today, but would provide more HTML-compatible processing, e.g. for documents that are not well formed. Unfortunately, the task force failed to discover any such approach that we expect would be widely accepted in practice. As shown by the failed attempt to deploy XML 1.1, XML is valued in part because of the high degree of compatibility among XML tool chains; if an XML document is processable by one application or tool, chances are excellent that it will work with others. Thus, the introduction of a new class of more HTML-compatible XML tends to undercut the very property that XML users value most: the new documents may be rejected or misinterpreted by existing XML tools and applications. Similarly, efforts to extend or adapt HTML5 to become more XML-compatible seem unlikely to meet with sufficiently widespread acceptance, at least at this time. So, with reluctance, the task force reports that no structural changes could be identified that would significantly increase the compatibility of the two stacks, and also be deployable in practice. The task force did carefully analyze a set of use cases, and concluded that substantial opportunities do exist today for using HTML and XML technologies together. Details are provided in the sections below. Readers are particularly encouraged to report additional use cases that they feel are not represented or specific examples where the solutions outlined are not appropriate. ================================================== I hope this is helpful, at least as a starting point. I also think that Larry's concerns may be somewhat better addressed if we could provide some deeper discussion and better illustrative examples of some of the polyglot issues, I.e. what's likely to work, what's not, and where we can reasonably expect adoption. I'm afraid I am not sufficiently knowledgeable of the details to offer anything specific. Noah Thank you
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