{minutes} HTML WG telecon 2014-03-20 - HTML 5.0 issues, Last Call status, DOM4, longdesc, f2f, etc.

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                       HTML Weekly Teleconference

20 Mar 2014

   [2]Agenda

      [2]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2014JanMar/0026.html

   See also: [3]IRC log

      [3] http://www.w3.org/2014/03/20-html-wg-irc

Attendees

   Present
          paulc, Sam, Eliot, jaymunro, Plh, Daniel_Austin,
          adrianba, cabanier

   Chair
          Paul

   Scribe
          plh

Contents

     * [4]Topics
         1. [5]Action items
         2. [6]HTML 5.0 issues
         3. [7]Last Call Status
         4. [8]W3C DOM4
         5. [9]longdesc status
         6. [10]CR progress
         7. [11]status of HTML 5.0
         8. [12]f2f meeting
         9. [13]AOB
        10. [14]next meeting
     * [15]Summary of Action Items
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Action items

   Paul: none

HTML 5.0 issues

   Paul: only one is issue 151, about WHATWG references in the
   status section of the document
   ... Sam sent a note about that earlier and we're working with
   the editors
   ... we're trying to make sure we have everything covered

   issue-151?

   <trackbot> issue-151 -- Remove WhatWG and html5.org references
   in status section of document -- open

   <trackbot> [16]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/151

     [16] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/151

Last Call Status

   Paul: Polyglot
   ... one large LC comment, worked on by the editor

   <paulc> One section to revisit:
   [17]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24451#c9

     [17] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24451#c9

   Eliot: there is one section that needs to be revisited. should
   be done in a couple of days

   POaul: once this gets closed off, the LC will be done and we'll
   need to figure how to get to CR
   ... so, we'll need exit criteria

   Eliot: Leif is making a draft for that
   ... should have something in a couple of weeks

W3C DOM4

   Paul: that's in last call
   ... didn't hear back from Robin

   plh: I don't have an update unfortunately

   Paul: ok, we're still on schedule. there are issues in the spec
   btw

longdesc status

   Paul: TF preference is to skip CR phase
   ... Status: "The A11Y coordination team continues to make
   progress on the Exit Criteria. We are getting closer to
   reaching consensus.

   Good news is the implementation report is getting developed in
   parallel."

   Paul: the individuals are all at CSUN this week

CR progress

   Paul: Moving canvas2d back to last call
   ... it appears that the hit region algorithm is in the L2 spec,
   and they're trying to figure which subset needs to be in L1

   Rik: it's becoming apparent that what people think is in the
   spec is not there
   ... we're working on it

   Paul: any discussion in the sub-team on if f2f discussion?

   Rik: I won't be able to attend (conflict with SVG)
   ... and Rich won't be able to either

   Paul: ok, we'll figure the next steps

status of HTML 5.0

   Paul: good news, we're done to 0 bugs
   ... only remaining is the one about at risk features
   ... see also
   [18]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24812#c11

     [18] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24812#c11

   plh: this is a moving target discussion btw. firefox shipped
   this week without an HTML5 feature (input color). blink-dev is
   discussing whether to remove another one (style scoped)

   Paul: big thanks to the HTML editors for their work!

   [19]https://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/HTML_Normative_References

     [19] https://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/HTML_Normative_References

   plh: Robin has been cleaning some of the references earlier
   this week
   ... this affects HTML5

   Paul: 4 specs are still problematic
   ... re features at risk. the bug concentrates on the list from
   the status

   [20]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24812#c10

     [20] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24812#c10

   scribe: any study on others?

   plh: c10 is one of them
   ... we'll have hundreds of test results in time for f2f

f2f meeting

   Paul: end date for registration is March 28
   ... long list of potential topics

   [21]https://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/wg/2014-04-Agenda#Potential_To
   pics

     [21]
https://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/wg/2014-04-Agenda#Potential_Topics

   Paul: plh, you've been talking about testing results
   ... Mike came with canvas results in the past

   plh: i expect we'll generate test results in the week of April
   1

   Paul: ok, I added a forward pointer to that in the agenda
   ... announcing the test results as early as possible will be
   useful
   ... for media task force, we're aiming on the second day in the
   morning
   ... we'll need a teleconference facility

   Daniel: we'll have this

AOB

   Paul: we covered testing results

   plh: re MSE tests from Google. is there someone looking at
   them>

   paul: it's been taken care of. won't have them stable by f2f

   <tobint>
   [22]https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webperf/raw-file/tip/specs/ResourceP
   riorities/Overview.html

     [22]
https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webperf/raw-file/tip/specs/ResourcePriorities/Overview.html

   tobin: I'm from the web performance working group
   ... following up on resource priorities

   <tobint>
   [23]http://www.w3.org/2013/11/14-html-wg-minutes.html#item19

     [23] http://www.w3.org/2013/11/14-html-wg-minutes.html#item19

   tobin: the work is continuing ion web performance

   <tobint> [24]http://www.w3.org/2014/03/19-webperf-minutes.html

     [24] http://www.w3.org/2014/03/19-webperf-minutes.html

   tobin: some questions making sure we're still in sync with HTML
   5.1
   ... just want to make sure the html group is aware of it

   paul: this is an extension spec
   ... is this an item where you need hooks or future merge?

   tobin: potentially, we might ask for a merge

   paul: if your working group needs hooks, please feel free to
   ask
   ... thank you to the editors for getting us to 0 bug

next meeting

   plh can scribe again

   Sam will chair

   [adjourned]

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