- From: Karl Dubost <karl+w3c@la-grange.net>
- Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:43:01 -0500
- To: public-html-wg-announce@w3.org
These are the raw minutes of the HTML WG Weekly Teleconference on
February 5, 2009
http://www.w3.org/2009/02/05-html-wg-minutes
HTML Weekly Teleconference 05 Feb 2009
Attendees
Present
Sam, Henri, Julian, Anne, MattMay, Lachlan
Regrets
DanC, MikeSmith
Chair
Sam Ruby
Scribe
Karl
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]Spec moratorium
2. [5]Joint Task Force ARIA UA
3. [6]Issues List
* [7]Summary of Action Items
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<DanC_lap> ah... thanks, Lachy ; missed that
trackbot, start telcon
<trackbot> Date: 05 February 2009
<scribe> Scribe: Karl
<scribe> ScribeNick: karl
Spec moratorium
Sam: the moratorium is lifted, because discussions keep repeated.
... let's move on.
<rubys1> [8]http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-ua-task-force
[8] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-ua-task-force
<pimpbot> Title: ARIA User Agent Implementation Task Force (at
www.w3.org)
Joint Task Force ARIA UA
Sam: Look at link. Just for notice, you might be interested
Issues List
Sam: no progress on issue59
... let's talk about it next week
... on ISSUE-54 about legacy compat for doctype, can we close it?
Ian made changes
<Julian> [9]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/54
[9] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/54
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-54 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
aaaa: Can we put in on pending review?
sam: Ok. Pending review
... for ISSUE-54
... We don't have a consensus on issue 64 (?)
... Some text has been crafted
<anne> people, 64 is about web sockets...
<anne> we're not talking about that
<scribe> ACTION: Ian to incorporate the text proposed by Larry
[recorded in
[10]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/05-html-wg-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Ian
<masinter> i hereby disclaim any copyright on the text supplied for
incorporation in the spec
Sam: Table summaries, table headers
<masinter> in case that's an issue :)
Sam: Do we have any updates on issue 20?
... no updates it seems
fooo4: We are
Gregory: Are we waiting for PF WG?
... I will ask on Friday if we have feedback on this?
<oedipus> GJR gregory rosmaita
<oedipus> ACTION: GJR inquire about table summary and headers status
at PFWG caucus - 2009-12-02 [recorded in
[11]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/05-html-wg-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-104 - Inquire about table summary and
headers status at PFWG caucus - 2009-12-02 [on Gregory Rosmaita -
due 2009-02-12].
Sam: HTML5 Spec updates from Mike
... Mike is not on the call, let's pass
... Issue 4, the due date is one week from now.
Larry: I'm still planning doing that
Sam: Issue 27 for doug but he is not on the call
... issue 60 overdue for one week
<oedipus> [12]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/agenda
[12] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/agenda
<pimpbot> Title: Input for Agenda Planning for the HTML Weekly -
HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
Larry: I will do this
<oedipus> [13]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/open
[13] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/open
<pimpbot> Title: Open Actions - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
<oedipus> [14]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/overdue
[14] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/overdue
<pimpbot> Title: Overdue Actions - HTML Weekly Tracker (at
www.w3.org)
<oedipus>
[15]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/pendingreview
[15] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/pendingreview
Sam: Issue 66, for danc and me. Nothing much to talk about it on
this call
<pimpbot> Title: Pending review Actions - HTML Weekly Tracker (at
www.w3.org)
Sam: issue63 for March
<oedipus> [16]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/29
[16] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/29
<pimpbot> Title: ACTION-29 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
Sam: Could we put action-29 to me?
<masinter> I agree
Lachy: mecanthear
ACTION-77?
<trackbot> ACTION-77 -- Michael(tm) Smith to lead HTML WG to
response to TAG discussion and report back to TAG -- due 2009-01-23
-- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> [17]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/77
[17] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/77
<pimpbot> Title: ACTION-77 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
<oedipus> sam, i updated action 29 so it has your name
sam: nothing much on action-77
ACTION-96?
<trackbot> ACTION-96 -- Henri Sivonen to to ensure editor removes
Origin header: from spec -- due 2009-03-16 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> [18]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/96
[18] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/96
<pimpbot> Title: ACTION-96 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
<Lachy> I said: if the spec gets the MIT licence, or equivalent,
then I can put the authoring guide under that too
Larry: If we watch the discussion on http mailing list
... it seems there is a different direction being taken
<masinter> the discussion on http-wg is open
Larry: but still open
<oedipus> [19]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/72
[19] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/72
<Julian>
[20]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/ietf-http-wg/2009JanMar/0036
.html
[20] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/ietf-http-wg/2009JanMar/0036.html
<pimpbot> Title: ACTION-72 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
ACTION-72?
<trackbot> ACTION-72 -- Dan Connolly to propose to close this issue
based on recent HTML 5 spec draft and test materials from WCAG 2 --
due 2009-02-04 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [21]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/72
[21] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/72
<pimpbot> Title: The HTTP Origin Header (draft-abarth-origin) from
Larry Masinter on 2009-01-22 (ietf-http-wg@w3.org from January to
March 2009) (at lists.w3.org)
<masinter> sorry discussion looks like it might lead to changing
Referer rather than adding "Origin"
<oedipus> [22]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/99
[22] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/99
<pimpbot> Title: ACTION-99 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
ACTION-99?
<trackbot> ACTION-99 -- Larry Masinter to review @profile due 2
weeks -- due 2009-01-29 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [23]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/99
[23] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/99
<DanC_lap> action-72 due next week
<trackbot> ACTION-72 propose to close this issue based on recent
HTML 5 spec draft and test materials from WCAG 2 due date now next
week
<DanC_lap> sorry I didn't get it done this week
Larry: I have reviewed it, so it should be closed
... the discussion is going on the mailing list
<Julian>
[24]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Feb/0106.htm
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[24] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Feb/0106.html
<Lachy>
[25]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Feb/0106.htm
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[25] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Feb/0106.html
<pimpbot> Title: headprofile: another dropped attribute from Larry
Masinter on 2009-02-05 (public-html@w3.org from February 2009) (at
lists.w3.org)
Sam: Let's close the action-99
<oedipus> GJR: action 99 closed with reference to email and minutes
Sam: change the action 99 owner: lachy
<masinter> I still think the section should be removed pending a
replacement
Sam: due date march
... Action 98? anything to report
MattMay: We met yesterday
... Our next meeting is in one week from now
... next thursday
... After HTML WG call
<oedipus> sam, is this the action to reassign to lachy?
[26]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/100
[26] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/100
<pimpbot> Title: ACTION-100 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
<Lachy> oedipus, no
sam: let's push the due date to the 19
<oedipus> which?
<Lachy> oedipus, ACTION-78
<oedipus> thanks
<oedipus> done
sam: there is no other items overdue in the page
... anyone want to discuss something
Larry: interested by issue66
<Lachy> oedipus, [27]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/78 is
still assigned to Larry
[27] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/78
<pimpbot> Title: ACTION-78 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
<masinter> merge issue 66 with missing-alt
ISSUE-66?
<trackbot> ISSUE-66 -- image analysis heuristics -- RAISED
<trackbot> [28]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/66
[28] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/66
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-66 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
ISSUE-31?
<trackbot> ISSUE-31 -- What to do when a reasonable text equivalent
is unknown/unavailable? -- RAISED
<trackbot> [29]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/31
[29] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/31
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-31 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
<oedipus> lachy, [30]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/78
updated
[30] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/78
<pimpbot> Title: ACTION-78 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
Larry: let's close issue66 and makeit a duplicate of issue 31
sam: no objections?
... let's proceed
<oedipus> lachy, you were given 2 extra weeks for action 78?
sam: Anything to discuss?
<Lachy> oedipus, yeah, the due date was meant to be changed to March
<oedipus> ok
MichaelC: boooo
:)
scribe: The task force is to work on specific mapping between ARIA
and accessibility APIs
<oedipus> lachy, changed date to march
<masinter> is there an "issue" to agree to participate in the task
force?
scribe: We will produce deliverable for PF and HTML WG
larry: It would be good if we could participate in this workshop
... we = html wg
<masinter> good if we would explicitly agree to partcipate
sam: some individuals
... some volunteers
MichaelC: Yes that would be good. But that would not be a huge
amount of time
<oedipus> [31]http://esw.w3.org/topic/PF/XTech/HTML5
[31] http://esw.w3.org/topic/PF/XTech/HTML5
<pimpbot> Title: PF/XTech/HTML5 - ESW Wiki (at esw.w3.org)
MichaelC: we would need at least one core wg member to participate
... it would be a series of teleconferences for a few months
<oedipus> hsivonen, are you available to help?
<Lachy> what's this task force for?
<hsivonen> oedipus, not 4 hours per week as required
<oedipus> hsivonen, understand
<Lachy> is this about the ARIA task force?
<oedipus> lachy, yes
<oedipus> KD: trying to create an issue or action?
<oedipus> SR: issue and action associated with it
ISSUE: Will this HTML WG participate to the ARIA Task Force
<trackbot> Created ISSUE-68 - Will this HTML WG participate to the
ARIA Task Force ; please complete additional details at
[32]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/68/edit .
[32] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/68/edit
<scribe> ACTION: MichaelC to send an email to HTML WG for recruiting
people for the ARIA Task Force [recorded in
[33]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/05-html-wg-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - MichaelC
<scribe> ACTION: cooper to send an email to HTML WG for recruiting
people for the ARIA Task Force [recorded in
[34]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/05-html-wg-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - cooper
<hsivonen> I'm in q
MichaelC: there is a desire from some implementers to do that under
the patent policy.
... the task force will be opened to any participants of w3c wgs
... It will be easier for people to join html to be able to
participate this wg
hsivonen: listofnames
sam: could you send the list of names to the mailing list?
... any topics? moving to adjourned?
ADJOURNED
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: cooper to send an email to HTML WG for recruiting
people for the ARIA Task Force [recorded in
[35]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/05-html-wg-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: GJR inquire about table summary and headers status at
PFWG caucus - 2009-12-02 [recorded in
[36]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/05-html-wg-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Ian to incorporate the text proposed by Larry
[recorded in
[37]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/05-html-wg-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: MichaelC to send an email to HTML WG for recruiting
people for the ARIA Task Force [recorded in
[38]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/05-html-wg-minutes.html#action03]
[End of minutes]
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