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Re: Multiple itemtypes in microdata

From: Bradley Allen <bradley.p.allen@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:47:57 -0700
Message-ID: <CAKpM4LkcTe5wWMVMNjm4Svft9p4SXUGD7jptqvvp7awMp4-WfA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
Cc: Stéphane Corlosquet <scorlosquet@gmail.com>, public-html-data-tf@w3.org
Oops; that's what I get for trying to edit a lengthy email like this
in Gmail. Apologies, and please bear with me while I clean this up. -
cheers, BPA

Bradley P. Allen

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Bradley Allen
<bradley.p.allen@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hixie- Allow me to try and describe a real, existing use case.
> There are a number of ongoing efforts to support the annotation of a
> scientific article together with the ability to specify the rhetorical
> structure of  a given article. The purpose is to support the
> evaluation of a given scientific work to determine whether or not it
> is supported by the evidence, and is consistent with related work in
> the field.
> To quote http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/NOTE-hcls-swan-20091020/:
> "Developing cures for highly complex diseases, such as
> neurodegenerative disorders, requires extensive interdisciplinary
> collaboration and exchange of biomedical information in context. Our
> ability to exchange such information across sub-specialties today is
> limited by the current scientific knowledge ecosystem’s inability to
> properly contextualize and integrate data and discourse in
> machine-interpretable form. This inherently limits the productivity of
> research and the progress toward cures for devastating diseases such
> as Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s."
> Vocabularies have been defined to this purpose, and they are gaining
> acceptance within the community of workers in the bioinformatics
> domain as a legitimate standard for expressing sharable metadata about
> scientific publications and statements made within them. Two such
> vocabularies are:
> AO:
> swan:Hypothesis
> ao:Annotation
> SWAN provides a vocabulary for describing scientific hypotheses; AO
> provides a vocabulary for annotation of scholarly documents. They are
> distinct vocabularies. Due to their highly technical nature, they are
> unlikely to be specializations of any meaningful class within
> schema.org. Furthermore, tools and workflows have been created to
> produce and consume content marked up with these vocabularies, to
> provide support for peer review and collaborative research, for
> example in the context of communities like alzforum.org.
> As a publisher of scientific content, HTML5 with microdata would be a
> valuable delivery format for scholarly content marked up with such
> structured data. What I would like to do, in that case is be able to
> express the following:
>  <p itemscope itemtype="http://example.org/feline">
>  </p>
> One could, I suppose, simply extend Thing, as in:
> http://schema.org/Thing/Annotation
> http://schema.org/Thing/Hypothesis
> Bradley P. Allen
> http://bradleypallen.org
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch> wrote:
>> On Thu, 13 Oct 2011, Stéphane Corlosquet wrote:
>>> I'm not targetting any particular software, I just want to make my data
>>> available for whoever wants to use it.
>> HTML (and the microdata parts of HTML) is definitely not designed for
>> non-existent hypothetical use cases. There's no way to design good
>> solutions for use cases until we know what the real problems are.
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